Vanquishing Voldemort - The Ultimate Punishment

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 107675

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <asian_lovr2 at y...> 
wrote:

Steve:
> You are missing the key point. 
> 
> The Ultimate Punishment for Voldemort -  To be immortal, STRIPPED OF
> HIS POWERS, and imprisoned.
> 
> I assumed people would understand what I meant by 'stripped of his
> powers', but in hindsight, I didn't make that part clear. There is 
are
> speculative endings in which the final cataclysmic event that allows
> Harry to defeat Voldemort, leaves Harry and/or Voldemort as muggles.
> That is one or both of them have completely lost their magical 
powers.
> Some even speculate that Harry will realize in advance, that the 
price
> of defeating Voldemort is the loss of his own magical power.
> 
> So, my premise is not that the court magically removes his powers
> before sending Voldemort to prison, but that the loss of his power 
are
> a complete and irreversable part of attempting to kill Harry again. 
In
> this case, he is not going to rebuild himself while in prison.
> 
> This also assumes that despite his reference to 'embracing 
mortatlity
> again' that Voldemort now has the same body that he had before he
> tried to kill Harry the first time. Which means while he is not
> prefectly corporally immortal, by most standards, he can not be 
killed. 
> 
> Since, Voldemort has his snake-like body, and not Tom Riddles 
handsome
> body, Voldemort did not revert back to his original mortal body, but
> back to his pre-Harry encounter semi-immortal body.
> 
> If all my suppositions fall into place, then Voldemort is screwed, 
he
> is trapped in an ever deteriorating physical body, but at the same
> time can never suffer true death, and because I say so, he can't 
cause
> his physical body to die (like jump of the roof or hang himself) and
> continue on as Vapormort. His magical powers have been completely
> lost, so even as Vapormort, he could never recover.
> 
> Think of the irony, Voldemort wants immortality, he sees it as his
> greatest achievement, and in the end, as I always knew it would, 
that
> immortality becomes his greatest curse. ...sweet delicious heavenly
> irony ...I love it.

Geoff:
Those of you who follow my ramblings will know that I am a Tolkien 
fan as well as a supporter of Harry.

This thread took my mind to "The Silmarillion" and the fate of 
Melkor/Morgoth who, admittedly, was immortal from the beginning. In 
the chapter "Of the Voyage of Earendil", the host of the Valar 
advance on Morgoth to destroy his fortress of Thangorodrim.

"There Morgoth stood at last at bay and yet unvaliant. He fled into 
the deepest of his mines and sued for peace and pardon; but his feet 
were hewn from under him and he was hurled upon his face. Then he was 
bound with the chain Angainor which he had worn aforetime and his 
iron crown they beat into a collar for his neck and his head was 
bowed upon his knees....."

and later  

"But Morgoth himself the Valar thrust through the Door of Night 
beyond the Walls of the World into the Timeless Void; and a guard is 
set for ever on these walls...."

Voldemort is not Morgoth and the Wizarding World are not the Valar 
but there seem to be places where both accounts touch base. Re-
reading it after a long gap, my attention focussed on the Door of 
Night and the Timeless Void and my thought moved to the archway in 
the Ministry of Magic. Also Morgoth is stripped of all his powers so 
that he is in the same situation as that outlined by Steve. Are there 
parallels here?Are there places perhaps beyond the archway where 
Voldemort couldbe confined? Trapped in a body, wandless, without 
allies.... 

Anybody also remember the ennui of the member of the Q continuum on 
Star Trek who wanted to commit suicide and found immortality anything 
but a gift?

Geoff
Who tomorrow celebrates 1 year and 930 posts on HPFGU. Could I have 
put this time to better use I ask myself?