Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings

[greatelderone]

No: HPFGUIDX 107748

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "goldfoy" <goldfoy at y...> wrote:
> * In both works the "Dark Wizard" has suffered a defeat which has 
> reduced them to a spirit state, both stories revolve around their 
> attempt to regain corporeal form and their full power. 

GEO: Sauron already has regained his corporeal form in the main body 
of the LOTR novel. On the other hand, Voldemort only regains his 
body half way into the HP books.

> or the character who would be expected to play a leading role in 
the 
> opposing the "Dark Wizard" but in the event proves to be totally 
> inadequate (Denethor/Cornelius Fudge). 

GEO: How can you even compare the two? Fudge totally ignored the 
threat of Voldemort and tried to silence those that spoke out while 
Denethor's only major mistakes were in overestimating how strong his 
bloodline was and probably listening to Sauron, but he took an 
active hand in opposing Sauron g Sauron unlike Fudge for instance.

> Having not fulfilled the terms of the prophecy Harry Potter loses 
his 
> magical powers and has to go and make his way in the world of 
> muggles, a situation eased by the gold inherited from his parents 
and 
> Sirius Black. 

GEO: What? How would he lose his powers by not fulfilling the 
prophecy? 
 
> The book ends as it began with Harry Potter in exile which seems 
to 
> be a natural and satisfying conclusion to the story, though this 
> ending would arguably be more C.S. Lewis than Tolkien. 

GEO: Rowling is neither Lewis or Tolkien.

> I believe that the parallels between the two works will be 
reinforced 
> in Book 6 when Cornelius Fudge is replaced as Minister for Magic 
by 
> someone who appears at first sight to be a most unlikely candidate 
> for the job. When we first meet Denethor's replacement it as the 
> disreputable, travel stained, Strider, not the noble born Aragorn. 
> Again a superficial similarity but still worth noting. 
> And don't forget, it's Sam who gets the girl, not Frodo

GEO: And you're ignoring the fact that Harry isn't a direct parallel 
of Frodo. IMO, he also has bits of Aragorn in him being the one who 
has been a thorn in the dark lord's plans and being raised in secrecy
(Rivendell, Dursleys) away from their heritage. 

Sam may end up with Rosie Cotton, but Hermione is hardly Rosie 
Cotton seeing how she actually plays a incredibly large role in the 
HP novels in contrast to Rosie Cotton who only appear a couple of 
times and is nothing, but a minor background character. If we're 
going to cast the HP characters into LOTR roles then I'd say that 
Hermione is probably most like Eowyn.