Snape's part in death of Sirius
nkafkafi
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Mon Jul 26 23:47:42 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 107782
Potioncat:
Where does the 2 hours come from? Do we know how much time passed
between Snape discovering Harry was gone and his notifying the Order?
Neri:
The 2 hours came from Pippin's estimation. Lets check. We know for
sure that Snape checked the first time with HQ after leaving
Umbridge's office. It seems that his means of communication, whatever
it was, was very fast or instantaneous, because he sent a question
and got an answer that Sirius was indeed in HQ. We know that when
he "grew worried" he contacted HQ again. So the time it took him to
become worried was:
The time Harry and Co. spent in the forest +
The time it took them to fly to London +
The time it took them to find the prophecy +
The time they fought the DEs
2 x The time it took Snape to contact HQ
The time it took the Order members to get to the DoM once they got
the message from Snape.
In my estimation it would be considerably more than 2 hrs.
Double-check: It is also mentioned that twilight was falling when
Harry and Co. took off to London from the forest, and when DD sent
Harry to his office after the battle it was already dawn (Harry can
see the first light on the horizon from DD's window). So you can also
calculate it as:
The time Harry and Co. spent in the forest +
The length of the night in Scotland in June
2 x The time it took Snape to contact HQ
The time it took the Order members to get to the DoM
The time since they got there until DD sent Harry to his office.
IMO should be at least 4 hrs, more likely 5. Moreover, most of it was
dark time. Snape waited at least 3 hrs AFTER DARK before he "grew
worried" about six students and a teacher in the Forbidden Forest.
Not responsible at all.
Potioncat:
I am assuming, whatever the time, that the kids had left the forest
by the time Snape is looking there. Do we know "when" he found out
that anyone had left the castle?
Neri:
It would be very strange if he hadn't noticed for several hours that
all the Inquisitorial Squad was hexed. At the very least someone must
have noticed it (it must have been quite a BANG) and alerted him, as
he was one of the senior teachers left in the school. How much time
is it to question the Slytherins and find out what happened?
Potioncat:
This could be a fun, meaty thread to debate, but I do have one
major question. With all the errors we've made with Mark Evans and
the HBP: Is it your thought that JKR is showing us that Snape
delayed looking for Harry?
Neri:
Do you mean that it wasn't her intension and she didn't do the math
of the timeline from everybody's point of view? Could be, but IMO
this fits well with the pattern of Snape's carelessness and
irresponsibility regarding Harry during the Occlumency lessons and
especially after he stopped the lessons.
Neri
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