C.O.S. Clues ; WAS Re: JKR website update

Brenda M. Agent_Maxine_is at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 27 17:14:18 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 107885

Allo Valky! How's school treating ya?

>>> Valky wrote:
... the diary and how it came into Lucius possession.
To cut a long story short, I believed that Lucius was the keeper of
LV's possessions and many as sinister and grand as Toms own Diary,
Other speculators were more adherent to the notion that LV's
treasure was most likely stowed in the Riddle house, which was Toms
own, so therefore more apt to be the location. <<<

Bren now:

I doubt it was all that difficult for Lucius to get his hands on 
Tom's old school materials. Either scenario is valid and poses barely 
any challenges to Lucius. Or combining the two -- put Lucius in 
charge of the Riddle house and there you have it!

>>> Valky: I am sure Lucius' main objective in planting the diary at
Hogwarts was a direct attempt on Harry's life. Which most didn't
really agree with, but there you go. *shrug* <<<

Bren: Oh hehe, and did other members say something like `but Lucius 
needs Harry alive, to feed him to Voldemort'?? ;P

>>> Valky continued:
As for the Chamber having an exit, Bren, you have further inspired
another muse for me. Recently, I have been contemplating whether LV
may have been able to create himself an access route into Hogwarts
through books 1 to 5. I supposed that, whilst Ginny was enchanted,
Tom used her to cast a disillusionment on one of the secret
entrances into Hogwarts from Hogsmeade and vice versa. Specifically
the one behind the mirror on the fourth floor. This is the one that
mysteriously became blocked during the winter of book 2, the same
winter Ginny was staggering around Hogwarts under Toms Possession!*. 
<<<

Brenda:

Yes, you brought up an excellent point! I forget where that passage 
led to though, shame on me! Shame though, with all the anti-
Apparition protection and spells, why allow for secret passages?

>>> Valky: Now supposing you are right and the blocked tunnel leads 
somewhere. Lets say, perhaps that it is not another *exit* per se but 
also _ANOTHER ENTRANCE_ to the Chamber, from Hogsmeade through the 4th
floor secret tunnel and _STRAIGHT INTO THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS_ <<<

Bren:

What a scary thought! But you would also need a snake-carved entrance 
to enter the Chamber of Secrets in Hogwarts, right? Did we witness 
anything snake-like in Hogsmeade?

I seem to be the ONLY one in this group to obsess over the secret 
chamber in Malfoy Mansion. But I will push it till Book 7!! I posted 
my theory on Malfot chamber in Message #105202, I would like to get 
it re-evaluated.

------------------------------------------[Gist of Message 105202]
How *did* Tom Riddle find the Chamber? And if it was the simple 
matter of speaking in Parseltongue once locating the entrance, why 
did it take him "five whole years"?

And how did he find out he was the Heir of Slytherin anyways?

Tom Riddle probably had it much harder to learn the existence of the 
Chamber and how to operate it. One scenario I can think of is that 
Salazar Slytherin left a diary of his own, preserving himself as the 
Hogwarts founder. To me, leaving one's memory in a diary seems so 
awfully clever that maybe he had learned it from someone else. 
However, if this was true -- then how did he find that diary, and 
where was it kept all along? Could it be that it was kept in another 
secret chamber we know of -- in the Malfoy mansion!

What if there was another great war (much like Voldemort vs. 
Dumbledore) about a thousand years ago, between Slytherin and 
Gryffindor. The Malfoys could have been Salazar's trustworthy 
friends/allies/servants (you name it) or even the Secret Keeper. 
Salazar strikes a deal with Malfoy.

"Yo 'sup, Malfo. I have this diary instructing my Heir-to-be how to 
purse those filthy Mudblood and whatnot, but I need a place to hide 
it. Would you be a darling and fetch me your house. I will build a 
secret chamber inside since I trust no one but myself but my house 
will be too risky now. For a consolation prize I will fill it up with 
my precious gold, but you will give them back to me when this war is 
over."
------------------------------------------[End of Message 105202]


This of course doesn't explain why Salazar would have needed a Secret 
Keeper in the first place. Take it away!


Brenda





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