[HPforGrownups] Re: A favor to ask re christian allegory, alchemy, and Stoned!Harry

[Hans Andréa]

No: HPFGUIDX 108067

 --- gregory_lynn wrote: 

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Late last week there was a little discussion of 
the notion of Harry as the Philosopher's Stone incarnate, with a link 
to a summary post which I found fascinating.

It got me thinking of the potential for Harry not as a Christ figure, 
but as a Moses figure.  Then I was wondering how that would fit with 
the Stoned!Harry idea.  Anyway, I want to do more research but have 
relatively little time so I'm hoping some of y'all can point me in 
the right direction.

Hans:
Fascinating idea Greg! Thanks for the challenge. I'm definitely going to
turn my mind to this subject.

At this moment I can think only of a couple of disjointed ideas.

Certainly orphaned Harry being found on the Dursleys' doorstep is
reminiscent of Moses in the basket being found by the Princess. As you may
be aware I've often pointed out that there is an amazing number of parallels
between "Harry Potter" and the "The Alchemical Wedding of Christian
Rosycross", published in  1616. Well, on the fourth day there's a play being
performed which has the same theme: a little princess is found in a casket
floating on the water. That play is well worth reading to those interested
in the teachings of liberation by the way, as there are other references to
the Old Testament there. There also also some extremely vivid connections
with HP!

Moses too was a parseltongue (in my mind), as he turned his staff into a
serpent. (No OK he didn't literally have a chat with it, I know). Then there
was the copper serpent the Jews looked at to be healed. That was during the
40 years wandering through the wilderness. All connected, I'm sure.

Of course Moses was a leader as is Harry. Both of them reluctant too.

I think there's something to be gained by looking at the differences between
Harry and Moses too. For example poor old Moses never entered the promised
land. I'm sure Harry will.

I agree with Geoff that the best thing is to read Exodus. If you read it
with an open heart and with Harry clearly before your consciousness you'll
find the answer. I'm certainly going to do the same thing. And I hope
theologians will forgive me if I get my Biblical facts not quite right. I'm
just telling you what I remember at the moment.

Greg again:
Where can I find more info about the process of making the 
Philosopher's Stone?  Preferably with reference to the world of Harry 
Potter?

Despite what Jo says about Flamel making the Stone, you'll find that no
human being can do so. It can be made only by God himself. We all possess
one in the heart and if we use it the right way, i.e. not for getting wealth
or extending our physical life, but by having our own inner Harry make our
decisions for us, it will turn our being into the Gold of the Spirit and
give us the Elixir of Life.

Greg:
In the Stoned!Harry summary post there was much discussion of 
beheadings.  Where did this come from and where can I find more info?

Hans:
See my post 106899 - No. 4.

Greg:
Incidentally, I think you can look at the trio as aspects of one 
person which would make Hermione the head not because she's smart but 
because she's the one who thinks and is responsible.  So if there is 
a beheading, it could be the death of Hermione and Harry could be 
faced with the choice of surrendering potential immortality to 
resurrect her.

Hans:
See post 106899.

I shall be thinking about this in the coming months, so please don't expect
any news in the next few days. However I'm convinced I will find parallels
between Harry and Moses, as the Old Testament is another symbolical road map
to liberation, just like HP. However I prefer the New Testament as the
consciousness of humanity has changed over the millennia and the NT is
speaks clearer language for the modern person. However I think HP speaks the
most clearly of all, because it's aimed at the person of the third
millennium. For example at the time of the OT people were not so
intellectually conscious as we are today, and people had more of a group- or
race-consciousness than an individualised consciousness. In those days it
was necessary for people to have rules imposed on them, hence the Ten
Commandments. Harry Potter is the exact opposite. The whole point there is
that Harry does not live by rules but by the Law written in his heart. This
is what Paul calls the letter written on the fleshy tables of the heart. But
this inner law is not recognised by the established powers of this world,
which is why Harry is always in trouble.

I know you're busy Greg, but may I argue that these things are not just a
matter of literature and entertainment. In actual fact we're talking about
the purpose of life. That's what Harry Potter is about. That's what the
Bible is about.

Hans





	
	
		
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