Malfoy as MoM
Cathy Drolet
cldrolet at sympatico.ca
Thu Jul 29 18:04:04 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 108101
Lissa said:
"How many of those people's testimony will be accepted though?
In PoA, Dumbledore says that Sirius will not be cleared because of the word of three thirteen year old wizards and a werewolf. The Trio's aged a bit, but they're still kids. I think that eliminates ALL the kids (especially since the fact that all of them but Luna have Issues with the Malfoys is very well known, just by their behavior with Draco at school). Lupin's still a werewolf, so his testimony's pretty much out. Fudge and his cohorts aren't listening to Dumbledore- and if anyone believes he's after power, they won't listen either. Mad-Eye Moody WAS respected, but people don't quite believe him these days.
Tonks and Shacklebolt, on the other hand... I can't come up with a good argument there."
DuffyPoo:
PoA is a different situation. It's two kid's word against Snape's. Lupin isn't available for testimony even if he wasn't a werewolf, and mistrusted. Sirius' testimony isn't valid because he hasn't behaved like an innocent man. There was also the street full of eye-witnesses to the blowing up of Pettigrew, and DD gave testimony that Black was the Potter's secret keeper. DD has no power to sway the MoM. Why does DD remind the kids that Lupin's word won't be accepted because he and Sirius were friends, yet he fully expects Snape's word to be accepted when it's pretty common knowledge that Snape hated both Lupin and Black not to mention Harry and James?
In OotP the six kids have all been injured. How is that to be explained? I think all the kids, with the exeption of Ron, early on, are now credible. Because the situation has changed. Fudge, and other wizards who appeared in the Atrium, know LV is back. They may not recognize Bella, but, 'He was there!' shouted a scarlet-robed man with a ponytail...'I saw him, Mr Fudge, I swear it was You-Know-Who, he grabbed a woman and Disapparated!' 'I know, Williamson, I know, I saw him too!' gibbered Fudge.
While Harry was discredited for most of the 4th and 5th years - through the Daily Prophet - by the end of fifth year he is again 'the boy who lived' and the DP reprinted the article from the Quibbler. He is believed again. He's believed because they have the proof,: the word of not only the other five kids, but Tonks, Kingsley, DD, Lupin, Mad-Eye, Fudge, Williamson, and Dawlish. Just to name a few. Some of them may think think Mad-Eye's paranoid but I'm sure not everyone in the ministry is of the same opinion. Besides, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't after you - as was proven in GoF...Moody was imprisoned in his own trunk for nine months...enough to make anyone paranoid and drink out of their own hip flask. DD's word is accepted again, so we have his testimony. While Lupin may be distrusted by some Wizards who know he is a werewolf, it is quite likely not every person in the WW or Ministry knows he is, and just as likely that some would trust his report anyway. Even if you discredit Lupin, Moody and the six kids, there is still the testimony of DD, Tonks, Kingsley, Fudge, Williamson and Dawlish.
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