A Hero's Death - Basis in mythology??
Caius Marcius
coriolan_cmc at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 1 05:18:53 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 99852
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "antoshachekhonte"
<antoshachekhonte at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nkafkafi" <nkafkafi at y...>
wrote:
> > >Hedwigstalons wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > Would anyone out there be able to give me the msg. # of a
posting by
> > > Hans (may be from last summer) that talks about heroes and
needing
> > to
> > > die (meaning Harry)? I thought the hero _can't_ die, but it
seems
> > > that they can - Argh!! Not the fate I want for our Harry!!
Lord Raglan's The Hero: A Study in Myth, Tradition and Drama (1937)
found 22 thematic elements common to a variety of mythological heroes
1. The hero's mother is a royal virgin
2. His father is a king and
3. Often a near relative of his mother, but
4. The circumstances of his birth are unusual
5. He is often reputed to be the son of a god
6. At his birth an attempt is made to kill him, but
7. He is spirited away and
8. Reared by foster parents in a far country
9. We are told little or nothing of his childhood but
10. On reaching manhood he returns to his future kingdom
11. After victory over the king and/or giant/dragon/wild beast
12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor
13. Becomes king
14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
15. Prescribes laws, but
16. Later loses favor with his subjects and/or God(s), and
17. Is driven from the city, after which
18. He meets with a mysterious death
19. Often at the top of a hill
20 His children, if any, do not succeed him
21 His body is not buried but nevertheless
22 He has one or more holy sepulchers
Raglan then gives a score cord for several mythological heroes as to
how many of these critieria they meet:
Oedipus 19
Persues 18
Asclepios 12
Joseph 12
Nyikang 12
King Arthur 19
Theseus 20
Jason 15
Dionysius 19
Moses 20
Sigurd 11
Robin Hood 13
Romulus 18
Apollo 11
Elijah 9
Heracles 17
Pelops 13
Zeus 15
Watu Gunung 18
Llew Llawgyffees 17
As can be seen, our Harry meets so far with criteria #4, 6 , 7 , 8, 9
(sort of- we no info on Harry 0-18 months, and only sporadic info
from 18 months to age 10 years 11 months), 10 (if we stretch the
definition of adulthood to coming-of-age), & 11. Though Harry is not
reputed to be the son of a god (#5), he is a celebrity, which is
virtually the same thing in both the contemporary Wizarding World and
our own. Too early to say on the rest, though I doubt any fictional
holy sepulchers will be raised for Harry.
- CMC
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