[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry at GH

Lanthiriel S isilvalacirca at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 8 23:14:57 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 100465

--- Arya <dequardo at waisman.wisc.edu> wrote:
> But we saw in the DoM, in the Time Room, that Time
> Turners were only 
> one of the time-manipulating devices available.  On
> this topic, I 
> also latched onto this in the PoA movie * * *
> SPOILERS* * *
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> SPOILERS
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> SPOILER
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> ...Dumbledore's comment to Harry and Hermione just
> before he locks 
> them, he says, "I find it always helps to retrace my
> steps" which to 
> me, sounds like he's pretty much saying he's
> Time-turned before.  
> Where?  When?  Why?  What happened?  I want to know
> all about his 
> Time-turning experiences.  (And no, I don't buy the
> Ron/Dumbledore 
> theory at all.)  

I'm new to this list, so I'll start off by saying
hello to everyone and that I am very glad to be here.

This discussion of time turners and possible
time-altering scenarios in the next books has really
gotten me thinking about this issue more than I ever
have before. And I find myself somewhat frustrated by
all of it. It's kind of a dangerous thing to introduce
the possibility of time travel into a story as Rowling
did with PoA, because readers - well, readers like me
at least - will view almost every subsequent negative
event as something that could be reversed by going
back in time. The final task of the Triwizard
Tournament, the debacle at the Ministry of Magic, etc.
Please forgive me, as it has been awhile since I read
the passages of PoA relevant to time travel and I
don't have the books handy at the moment, so I can't
remember exactly how strict the rules against time
travel are - whether it is something forbidden or at
least discouraged on legal or moral grounds - but I do
know, having had my memory refreshed by seeing PoA,
that it was not encouraged as a common solution to
one's problems. However, I'm not clear (and it may
well be because I've forgotten something) why it was
okay for Dumbledore to approve of, and actually
encourage, the kids to use time travel to save Sirius
and Buckbeak, and yet it is not encouraged - or the
possibility of it even considered - in so many other
cases.

For instance, if I had been Harry at the end of OotP,
I would have had one overriding question for
Dumbledore. Well, two actually - the first being,
"Okay, Sirius fell through a veil and disappeared.
Exactly how does that make him dead? Please explain";
the second being "May I borrow one of your time
turners, Headmaster, so that I can go back a few
hours, ignore the vision Voldemort put in my head, and
thus save my godfather's life?"

Why is time travel okay in PoA and not in any of the
other stories? It is clearly dangerous, but how is it
any less dangerous in PoA than in any other instance?
Now that I think about it, it would seem to make sense
for the kids to at least temporarily consider taking
such an action at different points in the books,
though better judgment might prevail.

Any help you can give me on this one would be greatly
appreciated.

Lanthiriel S




	
		
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