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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> Alla:
> > By the way, that is not the reason why I am making allowances 
> as to  Sirius' treatment of Kreacher. 
> > 
> > 
> > Kreacher is a horrible being and really, Sirius treated him 
> MUCH  better than Malfoys treated Dobby, IMO.<
> 
> Pippin:
> Agreed Kreacher is horrible. Let's see, he's little and weird, 
> doesn't take care of himself, acts like he's not right in the head, 
> turns up where he isn't supposed to be, doesn't do his job 
> properly, lies and steals whenever he thinks he can get away 
> with it, uses bad language, talks back, gets angry at people who 
> try to help him, and clings adoringly to the memory of a person 
> who treated Sirius like dirt. Gee,  parallels between Kreacher 
> and Harry stack up like cordwood, don't they? And you've got to 
> admit, Snape treats Harry a lot better than the Dursleys do (not 
> that it's saying much.) This list has burned a lot of bandwidth 
> discussing whether Snape would betray Harry. Maybe we should 
> be asking whether Harry will betray Snape?
> 
> Pippin



Sorry, Pippin, but no, "little  and wierd, doesn't take care of 
himself, etc.,etc." are not my definitions of the horrible being, 
even jokingly.


It is more like that - he is ready and willing to betray Sirius at 
the first possibility, because he adores his dead mistress, who could 
not stand Sirius, even though Sirius was her son.


So, again I don't see any parallels between Kreacher and Harry. :o)

See, betrayal to me is one of the worst sins imaginable . That is 
why, by the way, I cannot imagine Peddigrew redemption (only in 
death, maybe). To me, he committed something unforgivable.


Some argued that betrayal is conditional, depending from waht sight 
we look at and supposedly Snape's betrayal of Voldy could also be 
looked at as bad thing.


Yes, in real life the person, who betrayed one side, could often be a 
hero for another side (intelligence activities, spies, etc.)


I think in these books the situation is a little different, because 
no matter how much "grey things" could be done by Dumbledore's side, 
they are still portrayed as fighting for the right thing, for the 
Light.


So, Snape's betrayal of Voldy to me is more like Snape coming to his 
senses. Peddigrew on the hand is a traitor, period (to me)


Anyway, I see the possibility of Snape's betraying Harry, but att he 
end it will turn out that Snape did not betray him at all.


Alla