Harry as Kreacher was Re: Snape at school was Should Harry have told on DJU
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Jun 9 19:25:07 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 100580
Annemehr:
> Honestly, what good is comparing the mere actions of people,
when the circumstances and motivations are all important? You
can't say Wormtail and Snape are equivalent because they both
switched sides,and we only approve one because we *like* him
better! One turned to the good side, and that *is* good (unless
we later hear of some evil motivation for Snape), and the other
turned to evil and that is evil.
> Any way, *can* you "betray" evil? In the purest sense, betrayal
seems to me to be turning against someone who has a claim
on your loyalty, and I don't think evil has a true claim on
*anyone's* loyalty. Therefore, say, Bellatrix turning against LV
will never carry the same weight as Ron turning against Harry
would.<
Pippin:
Hmmm. Fighting for the good? Good and evil are muddy even
from our perspective, let alone the characters'. I think few of
them would be so arrogant as to claim so much on their own
behalf. And some that would, Fudge and Umbridge, for example,
would be wrong. From their own perspective, the characters
can only know whether they are fighting for the right as they see
it.
Some, such as Regulus, the giants, and possibly the
goblins, if what Lupin predicts comes true, have seen right on
Voldemort's side. Leaving Voldemort, then, entails not only
turning against Voldemort's evil, but betraying those of your
friends who still believe in him. And let's not forget how
convincing he can be. He's got the Malfoys and their sort
believing he'll put purebloods on top while at the same time he's
convincing the goblins and giants that he's fighting to secure
their freedoms. Our Voldy's a talented bloke, and none, so far,
have been wise enough to see through all his deceptions.
Was Mrs. Black evil? It seems to be totally missed that she was
not a Voldemort supporter to the end. "They got cold feet when
they saw what [Voldemort] was prepared to do to get power. But I
bet my parents thought Regulus was a right little hero for joining
up *at first.* " --OOP ch 6. (emphasis mine)
Voldemort murdered Regulus, Mrs. Black's much better son, and
everybody treats it like it couldn't have possibly mattered to her.
Sheesh! Then Sirius goes to Azkaban as a Death Eater--no
wonder she was heart-broken! Does everyone think having the
wrong idea about Muggles and House Elves exiles you from
humanity?
To me, I'm afraid that it's not that simple. We teach our children
in school that racism is bad. In our culture it's a given. But no
one has ever been taught at Hogwarts that Muggles are the
equals of wizards, or that House Elves should not be slaves.
Consider the real world of the eighteenth century. A
good many people whose ringing words about human freedom
are enshrined in the founding documents of my society and
fondly quoted to this day, held slaves and would not have
considered me, a woman and a Jew, their social equal. Yet I
have rights today because they were willing to risk their lives for
their imperfectly imagined concept of human dignity.
Pippin
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