Who's to Blame/Ending Occulmency/Long

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 100584

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "koinonia02" <Koinonia2 at h...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
> <dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
>  It is just to me any of Harry's wrongdoings pales 
> > significantly in comparison to Snape's.
> > 
> > So, I can be Snape's apologist too, but not when it comes to 
> > verlooking his wrong deeds. How about that? :o)
> 
> "K":
> 
> I don't overlook Snape's wrong deeds either but I think we will 
> disagree on what is a wrong deed or not where it concerns Snape and 
> Harry.
> 

Oh, yes. We most certainly do.


"K":
> 
> Now I must defend Harry. He is smarter than that. Of course he knew 
> how dangerous the situation was. He didn't need to be told about 
the 
> Prophecy at this point in order to do what he was told. But then 
> that is a problem Harry has. He doesn't listen very well. 


He did not know what the situation was. I don't have a book with me, 
but I will rpovide quote when I come home.


> Alla:
>  
> > Harry was looking for information all book. The reason why he 
went 
> >to Snape's Pensieve was not to look for humiliating memories, but 
> >to find out what exactly was in MoM.
> 
> "K":
> 
> What would make Harry think Snape had put information about the MoM 
> in the Pensieve? Nah. Harry is just plain nosey. Of course thanks 
to 
> Harry we now know more about Snape. ^-^ No excuses for Harry here 
> either. Never, ever should he have pried into Snape's private 
> business. BTW, I believe Snape didn't want Harry to worry about the 
> MoM. Again, Harry just didn't care or listen. It's what Harry 
wanted 
> and that's all that mattered.



Again, await for the quote from me - the only reason Harry went to 
Pensieve is to look for information about MoM. I am 99% sure about 
that.

I am not saying that he should have gone into in the first place , 
mind you. But he was did not want to look for Snape's most 
humiliating moments.


> "K":
> 
> Seriously, this is a big problem many of us have. We have 
characters 
> we love and we are at times unable to look at the negative sides of 
> our favorites. That is one reason I usually have to ignore Harry 
> apologists threads because I do love the kid but Harry is hardly 
> ever held accountable. I find myself ending up disliking Harry 
> because of the constant excuses being made for him. That's why I 
> stay away from those threads. I love Harry but I don't think 
> everyone is wrong and he is right.



Alla:

It is your right to read any threads you want and avoid any threads 
you want.

I for once LOVE reading how we are trying to defend our favourites. I 
also can say that Snape gets excused from almost everything by Snape 
apologists. So what? It is the fun of the discussion.


As I said I have no trouble admitting Harry's flaws, but of course, I 
will try to find justifications for them.


That's one of the reasons why I am here - to defend my favourites in 
the heated discussion.

 
> "K":
Plus the fact it was 
> Harry and gang who never thought to go to Snape in the first place. 
> But then that is Snape's fault, isn't it. ;-)
> 
Actually, they forgot. Quote to follow in the evening. Harry simply 
forgot that Snape is the member of the order, that Snape one of the 
good guys. I cannot blame hi, for that.

Alla