Harry as Kreacher
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jun 10 16:48:10 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 100674
> > Pippin:
>From their own perspective, the characters can only know
whether they are fighting for the right as they see it. <<
> Annemehr:
> Well, yes, that's pretty much all anyone can do. I'm not
forgetting that Molly and Sirius argued furiously about how much
to tell Harry, and they both believed they knew what was best for
him. And Fighting For Good doesn't have to mean anything grand
and great; just trying to live a decent life and fulfill your
obligations responsibly will do. It has nothing to do with
arrogance.<
Pippin:
Hmmm...what I think would be arrogant would be deciding that
your motives for risking your life to oppose Voldemort are more
noble than someone else's. We can make that decision as
readers, with our godlike view of events. But I don't think the
characters are in that position. Even Dumbledore is not.
> Annemehr:
> Are you saying the Malfoys sat down and considered which
was the right way to go, and acted according to their best idea of
"good?" Because I was always sure their pureblood ideology
was simply a reactionary one, which they rationalise after the
fact.<
Pippin:
I doubt the Malfoys are sincere about anything. But the Blacks
may well have been. The point I was trying to make is that racial
equality is a debatable issue in the wizarding world, not a settled
question. In the WW even idealistic thoughtful people who strive
to be enlightened assume that wizards are superior and the
other races ought to look up to them. That was the lie of the
fountain. Some of the pureblood wizards have the same idea
about themselves.
But I was trying to make a point about the Blacks. It's true they're
allies of the Malfoys. But the Malfoys didn't *publicly* support
Voldemort either. Lucius claimed to have been under the
Imperius curse. I suppose that Mrs. Black believed that, or she'd
have burnt Lucius off the tapestry for being party to the murder of
Regulus. What I'm saying is, regardless of her ideology, Mrs.
Black was an enemy of Voldemort and that *could* have formed
common ground between Kreacher and Sirius. But Sirius
couldn't get past the fact that Kreacher was devoted to the
memory of Mrs. Black, any more than Snape can get past the fact
that Harry is devoted to the memory of James.
It was argued that Sirius had no obligation to show kindness
toward Kreacher because Kreacher's loyalty was doubtful. But
Sirius owed something to Kreacher as his master. As Tolkien
put it, the servant has a claim on the master for service, even
service in fear. Kreacher, however, owed Sirius no loyalty except
that forced on him by the House Elf enchantments. He did owe
loyalty to Mrs. Black, based on affection alone, since she was
dead. And Sirius trampled on it.
Imagine how Harry would feel if he had to watch Snape
destroying photographs of his family. You think Harry wouldn't
want to get even for that? At least if Snape did it, I think he would
know how much he was hurting Harry. But it didn't even occur to
Sirius that Kreacher might have feelings that were hurt.
Pippin
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