Cheering on Harry

[delwynmarch]

No: HPFGUIDX 100819



Darrin wrote :
> Who are the Slytherins we know?
> 
> Draco: Future DE if there ever was one
> Crabbe, Goyle: Sons of DEs
> Pansy Parkinson: Hateful little brat
> 
> Maybe there is some hidden, "good Slytherin" kid out there, but JKR 
> hasn't chosen to show us yet. We must go with what we have.

Del replies :
But wasn't it one the main lessons of the Pensieve Incident, that
people can change ? James was a total jerk at 15, but he changed. Why
can't we grant the same right to those Slytherin kids ?

Darrin wrote :
> And right now, the House of Slytherin is V-Mort's prime training 
> ground for DEs. Will he get all of them? No, but he'll get enough to 
> keep the movement going, and even those who don't join openly 
> sympathize with V-Mort in spirit.

Del replies :
Oh I agree there, and that makes me only more angry towards the good
guys :-) The adults know what happened the first time around, how LV
went recruiting among the Slytherin kids, so why aren't they doing
anything to prevent that from happening again ?? DD is letting the
kids choose their side again, but he should know that the Slytherin
kids have been fed hate and anger and that their judgement is bound to
be altered.

(Del)
> > May I remind you that if Harry hadn't met anyone before he put on 
> > the Sorting Hat, he would most probably have ended up in 
> > Slytherin ?

Darrin wrote :
> And if my uncle had breasts, he'd be my aunt.

Del replies :
I might be wrong in your idea, but that doesn't mean you can be
disrespectful of my opinion, Darrin.

Darrin also wrote :
> Harry DID meet other people and I also believe that Harry would have
> taken one look at the Slytherin table and one look at the Gryffindor
> table and make the exact same choice. (Or maybe he'd have seen Cho 
> Chang and wanted to go to Ravenclaw.)

Del replies :
Speculation.
Yep, Harry met people, lucky for him. Once again, it all comes down to
luck. Harry was lucky to meet the right people at the right time in
order to get a vague idea that he didn't want to be in Slytherin.

(Del) 
> > No matter how bad some past Slytherins have turned out to be, I 
> > can't help but wonder about the justice of a system where innocent 
> > kids can be sorted into a House that is detested by the entire 
> > rest of the school. How much of a chance do they really have to 
> > make friends outside of Slytherin ?

Darrin wrote : 
> How much do they really want other friends? Doesn't seem to me like 
> they want to associate with mudbloods and mudblood lovers.

Del replies :
Once again, speculation. We just don't know. And by the way, putting
them all in the same bag without knowing them all individually isn't
fair nor right.

Darrin wrote :
> I'm sure facing V-Mort is a bed of roses in some eyes, but four 
> times in five years? With a horde of dementors thrown in for good 
> measure?

Del replies :
Once again, you're being disrespectful.
And what I meant is not that it isn't hard to face LV, just that it's
not necessarily the only hard thing, nor the hardest one, one can
face. What will break you can be a breeze for me and vice versa.

Darrin wrote :
> It's Harry's opinion that Neville's situation is worse than his.

Del replies :
Nope, it's also mine as a matter of fact.

Darrin wrote :
> He puts others before him. Just one more thing to love about the 
> kid, but I suppose since I've said that, you will instantly find 
> something else to hate about him to balance the scales.

Del replies :
You're getting annoying with your derisive irony, Darrin.
Yes, Harry was very decent concerning Neville that time. But I
wouldn't go as far as saying that Harry puts others before himself,
because he doesn't. He put a stupid broom before Hermione, and his own
hurt feelings before Ron's. I'm not saying he didn't have good reasons
to do what he did, I'm just saying that he doesn't put others before
him most of the time.

Darrin wrote :
> But we now know that if Harry just up and quit and flew his broom to 
> South America to play Quidditch for Uruguay under an assumed name 
> (Neville Longbottom! -- Shout out to Jenny from Ravenclaw) then the 
> fight against V-Mort is lost. Only Harry can defeat him, according 
> to the prophecy.

Del replies :
Even if Harry is indeed the only one who can defeat LV in the end,
that doesn't mean the others are not just as important. Harry needs
the others to survive until the final showdown, so if *they* quit, the
fight against LV would be lost too, Harry or not.

Darrin wrote :
> So, Harry is the key. Maybe he deserves a bit more respect.

Del replies :
I deserve respect too.
And Harry might be the key, but he's no God, so I won't adore him as
such. A good Seeker is crucial for a team to win a Quidditch match,
but an outstanding Seeker won't be loved just because he's good, if he
acts like a jerk the rest of the time. I'm not saying that Harry is a
jerk, but I do say that I don't like him that much, even though I
acknowledge his importance in the War.

Satisfied ?

Del