Who is the adult (Was: Who's to blame for Occlumency?)

demetra1225 tzakis1225 at netzero.com
Fri Jun 11 18:45:37 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 100902

Alla wrote:
Well, but could you supply a quote, where Harry wanted Voldie to
continue put FALSE visions in his mind? Yes, he wanted for dreams to
continue, because he thought that those dreams were REAL.

Demetra:
I think the vision of Sirius in the DoM was the first time a false 
vision was placed in Harry's mind.  

> Stefanie wrote:
[snip] 
> Snape knew the ramifications of Voldemort prying into Harry's head. 
> As DD states: "'Sirius told me you felt Voldemort awake inside you 
> the very night that you had the vision of Arthur Weasley's attack. 
I 
> knew at once that my worst fears were correct: Voldemort had 
> realised he could use you. In an attempt to arm you against 
> Voldemort's assaults on your mind, I arranged Occlumency lessons 
> with Professor Snape.'" (OotP 37)
> 
> So DD realizes that Voldemort can use Harry to attack people. 

Now Demetra:
Nothing in this quote indicates that DD thought Voldemort would put 
false visions in Harry's mind.  I read it as DD thought that 
Voldemort could possess Harry's mind.  I wrote my thoughts on the 
whole issue of the Occlumency lessons and what I think DD really 
wanted to accomplish in my post# 100856.  In short, I don't see how 
Occlumency, which is a way to block Legilimency, could have helped 
Harry.  Voldemort was not practicing Legilimency on Harry.  There was 
another purpose to the lessons - IMO, DD wanted Harry to learn how to 
repel assault/possession of Harry's mind.  And while Harry didn't 
master Occlumency, he most definitely succeeded in repelling Snape 
during the lessons.  






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