What if DD dies in 6 or early 7 & Harry gets a hold of the penseive.

[vmonte]

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vmonte here:

I was just wondering what would happen if DD were killed and Harry 
confiscated the penseive (or better yet if Ron inherited the penseive 
filled with DD's memories). Harry has already seen this gadget in 2 
books, I'm sure it's going to come back.  If DD is grouping and 
sorting his memories to find links, one of the children might view  
older memories that will make them suspicious. What if the kids see 
themselves in the past--running around like in PoA.  They may need to 
go back just to complete their time-line role.  Ron has not been 
involved with time-travel. Do you think JKR has done this on 
purpose?  If Ron=DD then she might not want to include him in 
anything that might give his future role away.  I also find it 
curious that Ron (& Hermione for that matter) have not even met 
Voldemort like Harry and Ginny have.  They are sure to meet him in 
the next 2 books. 

I still think that time-travel will happen.  And it maybe due to what 
the kids see in the penseive.  I don't think however that James or 
Lily history will change. The kid's time-travel may be what makes GH  
happen the way it did.  Also, if it's not Harry's voice at GH it may 
some other time-traveler (Ron?).  

I believe that James and Lily are both dead. They both came out of 
Voldemort's wand. All I'm suggesting is that James was killed before 
Lily (could be hours, minutes, or days). Voldemort is responsible for 
both their deaths. Now, I cannot tell you exactly what happened 
because I'm not JKR. But James may have been out of the house when he 
was killed. He could have been running after Lupin who was changing 
into a werewolf, he could have gone looking for Voldemort--anything! 

And about 18-year-old Harry...

He could have survived the GH attack. As I mentioned before he may 
die, and then be revived by Snape, or someone else. Maybe Harry is 
taken to that "love room," or whatever that place is, and he is 
reborn--whatever.

Time-travel is possible, it has already happened. JKR likes to 
introduce her ideas slowly into her books. 

***  I hate time-travel stories believe it or not.  *** 

But I think I would be angrier if JKR had never mentioned time-travel 
in book 3, and then threw it at us in book 7. 

And Time-travel can be done without the kids losing time in the 
present. 
 
For example:    
In the PoA book Harry and Hermione go back in time, do what they have 
to do, and then come back to the same moment in time from which they 
left. Harry may come back to the present to finish fighting present 
day Voldemort. If he doesn't, maybe the future Voldemort will follow 
Harry back to GH. Maybe the series will end where it started--THE 
NIGHT AT GODRIC'S HOLLOW. 

As I've mentioned before, one thing that I've noticed in all the 
books is that JKR likes to trick us into believing we are seeing one 
thing but then shows us how we've been fooled. Mistaken identity is 
throughout the books. There is Crouch as Moody, Ron and Harry as Crab 
and Goyle, PoA Harry who believes he is seeing James, etc. Harry has 
already assumed incorrectly that he was James, why not again. Again, 
what if the voice Harry assumes to be his father at GH is really 
Harry? 

In the SS movie James was not in the flash back scene at GH (JKR told 
the writer to omit it from the script), and James voice was 
eliminated altogether from the PoA movie. Did someone not want us to 
recognize that voice? 

JKR is also constantly reminding us how much Harry looks like James. 
In OOTP it is mentioned several times. (My personal favorite is when 
Molly tells Sirius that Harry is not James no matter how much he 
looks like him.) Why keep beating us over the head with this?  No one 
is going to mistake Harry for James in the present since James has 
been dead for many years.  

But it could happen if Harry goes back in time.  I also wonder if 
someone will realize who he is because he has his mother's eyes? 

It's possible. Time-travel is already a reality in JKR's world