Harry as Kreacher

[amanitamuscaria1]

No: HPFGUIDX 101091

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "naamagatus" <naama_gat at h...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
> wrote:
> <snip> 
> > It was argued that Sirius had no obligation to show kindness 
> > toward Kreacher because  Kreacher's loyalty was doubtful. But  
> > Sirius owed something to Kreacher as his master.
snip
> > Kreacher, however, owed Sirius no loyalty except 
> > that forced on him by the House Elf enchantments. He did owe 
> > loyalty to Mrs. Black, based on affection alone, since she was 
> > dead.  And Sirius trampled on it.
> 
> Just a small point here: when exactly did Kreacher serve Sirius, 
> fearfully or otherwise? He never did anything that he was supposed 
to 
> do - clean, cook, etc. All he did was skulk around, get in the way, 
> insult Sirius and his guests and generally make a complete nuisance 
> of himself. More than that, he did things against Sirius' wishes - 
> such as take away various items that Sirius wanted destroyed. 
> 
> Naama

AmanitaMuscaria now - I think we may be seeing a re-run of Snape and 
Potter here. Sirius grew up in the House of Black, and you can bet 
Kreacher was loyal to the senior Blacks, as he still was in OotP. As 
we know, house-elves are powerful beings. Sirius hated being home, 
but it may not have just been because of his parents. I can see 
Kreacher spying on and telling on Sirius if he put a foot out of line 
(like not joining Voldie?). I'm betting Sirius hates Kreacher because 
he's got a long memory of Kreacher's loyalty and deviousness. I 
suspect Sirius had to leave home not just because of his parents, but 
because of Kreacher. I can't really see how else he can comment on 
Crouch's dismissal of Winky and understand how Crouch's treatment of 
her shows his character, all the while being blind to how his own 
treatment of Kreacher shows his own character. Then again, we can all 
see how someone else should do things...
Cheers. AmanitaMuscaria