What if other teachers behaved like Snape?
Mel
melaniertay at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 13 20:48:29 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 101134
Kneasy wrote:
> Snape doesn't hate Harry IMO. He doesn't like him much, thinks he
> needs taking down a peg or two, but hate? I doubt it.
> Harry hates Snape right enough; Snape's to blame for everything.
> Snape was planning to steal the Stone, remember? Snape was going
> to make sure they lost the Quidditch match, Snape was going to
> poison him, Snape, Snape, Snape. It's a paranoid fixation with that
> boy; so much so that Voldy agents swan about right under his nose
> without him noticing.
I think that they Hate each other. I believe that Snape's behavior
at the end of POA shows he had just crossed the line and hated
Potter. I think Harry, began to truly hate Snape at the end of
OOTP. I believe it says as much. That he felt loathing far more
than he ever had for Malfoy and he'd never forgive Snape for Sirius'
death.
> Snape probably treats him better than Vernon does. Certainly I
> haven't yet seen Vernon save Harry's life.
I don't see this as a point in his favor.
> Snape *punishes* Harry? Some scathing comments, usually, (though
> not always) when Harry has done something particularly brainless,
> or marks docked; marks, by the way that don't matter. How many
> exams has Harry failed? Zero. None.
Actually we don't know that. I know he got D's all the time and the
book states taht DD must have something to do with him scraping a
pass.
> And the OWLS (which do matter) are marked by external examiners
> and everybody knows it. How many detentions has Snape given Harry
> in 5 years? Care to guess? Wow! That really is some expression of
> hate! Snape is much more complex than a seething cauldron of
> Potter-ophobia. He's not nice (thank God) but he is interesting.
He is interesting. I think so too. Although, I'm not sympathetic
enough to think he's doing great things while we're not looking.
> And just what have the Slyths done that's so terrible? They sneer,
> they strut, they name-call. How awful! They usually admire their
> fathers - how un-natural! Flint cheats at Quidditch - throw him in
> Azkaban at once! Malfoy changes Hermione's dentition and gets changed
> into a ferret, he makes a snide comment and gets his face slapped, he
> docks points when authorised by Umbridge (which immediately get
> replaced). He always loses. But it seems that isn't enough for you.
> Meantime he and his buddies are regularly hexed on the Hogwarts
> Express before they can even get their wands out. James's bullying
> revisited. Er, tell me - who're the Slytherins here?
It's not considered bullying (by Webster definition) if the other
party always starts it. Which they do. Certainly not that big of a
deal, but you can hardly call the other party "bullying".
> Slytherins are not DEs; though most DEs are Slytherins. There is a
> difference. There'd better be; Harry is prime Slytherin material
> according to the Hat. Just because he didn't want to join doesn't
> change what the Hat saw. The potential is still there.
Wormtail is a Gryf, right? I've always thought some of the
Sytherin's are just fine. I'm not convinced Malfoy will be able to
fall in this category any time in the future. Yes, his father is
also to blame if he turn into a DE. However, as they get older they
loss this right to blame their parents. Not yet, but it's coming
for Malfoy.
> I haven't read any post *whining* that Slyths get a raw deal,
> though I suspect there are posters who wish they did exist; it might
> help justify their chosen view. I have seen posts whining that Snape,
> DEs, Slytherins are irredeemably evil and no-one must like them, any
> of them, they're evil, un-natural, unforgivable. Rubbish. It's a
> natural reader response to well-rounded characters. We all have
> favourites, we mostly disagree, that's what most of the posts are
> about after all - different views, differently expressed.
That's not true. I've been a member of this site for 1 1/2 weeks
and I've read several. There seems to be an equal amount of people
that prefer Sytherins as opposed to Gryf in this group.
Mel
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