Is Lupin ambiguous? was: What's subversive? (long)
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Pippin
which brings me to my main point. David gives me far too much
credit. I did not invent the ambiguities surrounding the character
of Remus Lupin. JKR did that. All I did was catalogue them --
and suggest a possible explanation. It seems to me that in
Lupin's case the subversive reading is to deny that the
ambiguities exist or to claim that they are accidental. <veg>
Now Olivier
At the end of my message is a collection of all the appearances of
Lupin in OoP, just to assess if indeed Lupin is ambiguous or not. I
urge the interested reader to skim through them.
Well, let's see now: is Lupin ambiguous? Well, maybe he is, but the
least we can say is that the non subversive way to read him is the
calm, quiet, intellectual guy with a certain talent for human relation
that
He's the one that finds the words to tell Harry just enough about
Voldemort, he seems very close to both Sirius and Molly and he is
obviously trusted by Moody and Tonks (look down all the references of
Moody and Lupin talking about Order business). He's courageous, saving
Harry's life twice and Neville's life once during the battle.
Pippin has argued that Lupin might want Harry to continue Occlumency in
order to weaken Harry (it is true that Harry is particularly weak after
the Occumency lessons). However, Sirius is very concerned about the end
of Occlumency too. In fact, he is the first to react, before Lupin,
when Harry says the lessons have ended. We can suspect that Sirius and
Lupin both know from the start about Dumbledore's plan to trap
Voldemort in the Mom (look up the fleeting look between them during the
diner). He has also argued that Lupin's weak points are his cowardice
and his desire to be liked. However, in all the references above, I
fail to discern such traits. Even in the Pensieve scene, it is Peter
and the pair James/Sirius who seems very concerned about being liked.
Remus is utterly absent, he reads and wants to do some homework.
Maybe Lupin will turn out to be evil, maybe he will be a traitor to the
Order, just like Peter was the first time. However, to say that this is
the natural way to read the character seems to me to be an incredible
stretch.
Olivier
PS: Pippin, you left aside David quotation of Elkins: Do you personally
recognize yourself in Elkins characterization of the subversive
reader.? Nah, maybe that's too personal a question.
References:
A compendium on Lupin's role in OoP. Read only as a reference.
'Harry, what form does your Patronus take?'
Lupin provides a mean to recognize Harry. Then he shakes Harry hand
"watching him closely."
Later, he answers Harry's question about their departure and introduce
the other guards. We have a hint of his (possible) Legilimency
power 'a surprising number of people have volunteered to come and get
you,' said Lupin, as though he had read Harry's mind; the corners of
his mouth twitched slightly. Lupin answers some more question about
their trip then write a letter to the Dursleys telling them Harry's
safe. Harry asks him if he has to come back and 'Lupin smiled but made
no answer,' a very possible hint that Lupin at least know about the
blood protection.
There follows some exchange while they are flying.
Then Lupin answers (or rather does not answer) a question about
Grimmauld Place. Lupin and Tonks carry Harry's trunk 'between them'. As
a stylistic note, 'said quietly' come quite often after Lupin. It is
Lupin that open the door of Grimmauld Place, and he is sealing it too
afterwards.
Lupin and Mrs. Weasley 'dart forward' to shut Mrs. Black out. It is
Lupin and Sirius who finally manage to do this.
Later on, at the beginning of the meal, Lupin makes a nice comment on
Molly's food to ease the tension after Molly has mentioned Percy.
During the meal, he has an 'intense discussion' about goblins with Mr.
Weasley and Bill. He points out that the goblins may join Voldemort if
offered freedom rather than gold.
At the end of the meal, Sirius mentions Voldemort and 'Lupin, who had
been about to take a sip of wine, lowered his goblet slowly, looking
wary.' In the following exchange between Molly and Sirius, Lupin's eyes
are 'fixed on Sirius.' When he finally speaks, after Arthur he says
that
'Personally,' said Lupin quietly, looking away from Sirius at last, as
Mrs Weasley turned quickly to him, hopeful that finally she was about
to get an ally, 'I think it better that Harry gets the facts -not all
the facts, Molly, but the general picture - from us, rather than a
garbled version from ... others.' And there is a comment indicating
that Harry is convinced he knows about the Extendable Ears. His
expression is 'mild.' A few seconds later, the tension is palpable
between Molly and Sirius. Lupin's reaction
'Molly, you're not the only person at this table who cares about
Harry,' said Lupin sharply. 'Sirius, sit down.' [...]
'I think Harry ought to be allowed a say in this,' Lupin continued,
'he's old enough to decide for himself.'
Ginny leaves, the Portrait screams again and once again it is Lupin
that deals with it.
There follows the discussion on what Voldemort's up to.
'More than he thinks we do, anyway,' said Lupin.
'Or rather, you messed it up for him,' said Lupin, with a satisfied
smile.
'And the very last person he wanted alerted to his return the moment he
got back was Dumbledore,' said Lupin. 'And you made sure Dumbledore
knew at once.'
'Dumbledore's got a shrewd idea,' said Lupin, 'and Dumbledore's shrewd
ideas normally turn out to be accurate.'
Up to that point, Lupin is the main source of information, others will
speak afterwards. For the sake of exhaustivity, I mention that Lupin
says 'We are doing our best' in the following discussion.
But it is him who tells Harry
'Deep down, Fudge knows Dumbledore's much cleverer than he is a much
more powerful wizard, and in the early days of his Ministry he was
forever asking Dumbledore for help and advice,' said Lupin. 'But it
seems he's become fond of power, and much more confident. He loves
being Minister for Magic and he's managed to convince himself that he's
the clever one and Dumbledore's simply stirring up trouble for the
sake of it.'
'You see the problem,' said Lupin. 'While the Ministry insists there is
nothing to fear from Voldemort it's hard to convince people he's back,
especially as they really don't want to believe it in the first place.
What's more, the Ministry's leaning heavily on the Daily Prophet not to
report any of what they're calling Dumbledore's rumour-mongering, so
most of the wizarding community are completely unaware any things
happened, and that makes them easy targets for the Death Eaters if
they're using the Imperius Curse.'
Of course this just precedes the 'And I'm not a very popular dinner
guest with most of the community,' said Lupin. 'It's an occupational
hazard of being a werewolf.'
The he resumes his information feeding role
They're trying to discredit him,' said Lupin. 'Didn't you see the Daily
Prophet last week? They reported that he'd been voted out of the
Chairmanship of the International Confederation of Wizards because
he's getting old and losing his grip, but it's not true; he was voted
out by Ministry wizards after he made a speech announcing Voldemorts
return. They've demoted him from Chief Warlock on the Wizengamot -
that's the Wizard High Court - and they're talking about taking away
his Order of Merlin, First Class, too.'
Lupin's next mention is in the following sentence. 'What's he after
apart from followers?' Harry asked swiftly. He thought he saw Sirius
and Lupin exchange the most fleeting of looks before Sirius answered.
And just after that
'No.' It was not Mrs Weasley who spoke this time, but Lupin. The Order
is comprised only of overage wizards,' he said. 'Wizards who have left
school,' he added, as Fred and George opened their mouths. There are
dangers involved of which you can have no idea, any of you ... I think
Molly's right, Sirius. We've said enough.'
That's the end of the discussion. Lupin appears next during Grimmauld
Place house-keeping.
'Tonks joined them for a memorable afternoon in which they found a
murderous old ghoul lurking in an upstairs toilet, and Lupin, who was
staying in the house with Sirius but who left it for long periods to
do mysterious work for the Order, helped them repair a grandfather
clock that had developed the unpleasant habit of shooting heavy bolts
at passers-by.'
On the day of the hearing, Lupin is in the kitchen 'as if waiting for
Harry' alongside Tonks, Sirius and the Weasleys. Lupin asks question to
Tonks about someone at work. He later addresses Harry
The law's on your side,' said Lupin quietly. 'Even underage wizards are
allowed to use magic in life-threatening situations.'
'Good luck,' said Lupin. Tm sure it will be fine.'
Next time we see Lupin, he's at the party for Ron and Hermione. Harry
spends some times with him and Sirius but first time he speaks he says
'I think Dumbledore might have hoped I would be able to exercise some
control over my best friends,' said Lupin. 'I need scarcely say that 1
failed dismally.' Afterwards, he discusses elf-rights with Hermione.
The Harry surprises Lupin and Kingsley discussing prefects appointment.
Lupin states that Dumbledore has he's reasons.
Lupin then banishes Molly's boggart.
'Molly,' said Lupin bleakly, walking over to her. 'Molly don't ..."
Next second, she was sobbing her heart out on Lupin's shoulder. 'Molly,
it was just a Boggart,' he said soothingly, patting her on the head,
'just a stupid Boggart ...'
'D-d - don't tell Arthur,' Mrs Weasley was gulping now, mopping her
eyes frantically with her cuffs. 'I d - d - don't want him to know ...
being silly ...' Lupin handed her a handkerchief and she blew her nose.
'Molly that's enough; said Lupin firmly. 'This isn't like last time.
The Order are better prepared, we've got a head start, we know what
Voldemorts up to -' Mrs Weasley gave a little squeak of fright at the
sound of the name. 'Oh, Molly, come on, it's about time you got used to
hearing his name -look, I can't promise no one's going to get hurt,
nobody can promise that, but we're much better off than we were last
time. You weren't in the Order then, you don't understand. Last time
we were outnumbered twenty to one by the Death Eaters and they were
picking us off one by one ...'
'And as for who's going to look after Ron and Ginny if you and Arthur
died,' said Lupin, smiling slightly, 'what do you think we'd do, let
them starve?'
Lupin is later to be seen at King's Cross, where he was guarding Fred,
George and Ginny.
'Well, look after yourselves,' said Lupin, shaking hands all round. He
reached Harry last and gave him a clap on the shoulder. 'You too.
Harry. Be careful.'
We see again Lupin months later, although characters often discuss him
There are some ten references to him in the period (Harry suggesting he
could teach the DA, Sirius mentioning that Umbridge's laws have made
life hard for him, Dean saying he was the best DADA teacher they ever
had...). Lupin is seen at Christmas, where he offerd Harry a joined
present with Sirius: a book DADA. Lupin spends long moments with Molly
cheering her up. Lupin is then part of the escort when they visit
Arthur. He visits his fellow werewolf. And he's once again in the
escort when they all go back to Hogwarts.
'Look after yourselves,' said Lupin, shaking hands all round and
reaching Harry last. 'And listen..." he lowered his voice while the
rest of them exchanged last-minute goodbyes with Tonks, 'Harry, I know
you don't like Snape, but he is a superb Occlumens and we all - Sirius
included - want you to learn to protect yourself, so work hard, all
right?'
Then comes the Pensieve event. Remus is of course very different her,
but let's see anyway.
'Loved it,' said Lupin briskly. 'Give five signs that identify the
werewolf. Excellent question.'
'Think I did,' said Lupin seriously, as they joined the crowd thronging
around the front doors eager to get out into the sunlit grounds. 'One:
he's sitting on my chair. Two: he's wearing my clothes. Three: his
name's Remus Lupin.'
'Keep your voice down,' implored Lupin.
By the lakes, James plays with the Snitch, Sirius looks handsome and
haughty and Remus reads a book. Peter watches James play.
'You might,' said Lupin darkly from behind his book. 'We've still got
Transfiguration, if you're bored you could test me. Here..." and he
held out his book.
And then when James notices Snape
Lupin and Wormtail remained sitting: Lupin was still staring down at
his book, though his eyes were not moving and a faint frown line had
appeared between his eyebrows.
During the Snivellus incident, Lupin barely stops reading. He does not
stop and does not laugh when James mocks Snape.
Many of the surrounding students laughed, Sirius and Wormtail included,
but Lupin, still apparently intent on his book, didn't, and nor did
Lily.
Harry then tries to contact Sirius and fins Lupin.
'Harry!' he said, looking thoroughly shocked. 'What are you -what's
happened, is everything all right?'
'I'll call him,' said Lupin, getting to his feet, still looking
perplexed, 'he went upstairs to look for Kreacher, he seems to be
hiding in the attic again...'
And there follows the discussion about James
Then Lupin said quietly, 'I wouldn't like you to judge your father on
what you saw there, Harry. He was only fifteen -'
Lupin looked sideways at Sirius, then said, 'Look, Harry, what you've
got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the
school at whatever they did - everyone thought they were the height of
cool - if they sometimes got a bit carried away -'
'If we were sometimes arrogant little berks, you mean,' said Sirius.
Lupin smiled.
'Was he playing with the Snitch?' said Lupin eagerly.
But Lupin shook his head. 'Did I ever tell you to lay off Snape?' he
said. 'Did I ever have the guts to tell you I thought you were out of
order?'
'She started going out with him in seventh year,' said Lupin.
'And stopped hexing people just for the fun of it,' said Lupin. 'Even
Snape?' said Harry. Well,' said Lupin slowly, 'Snape was a special
case. I mean, he never lost an opportunity to curse James so you
couldn't really expect James to take that lying down, could you?'
'Now you mention it,' said Lupin, a faint crease between his eyebrows,
'how did Snape react when he found you'd seen all this?'
Harry tells and
'Are you serious, Harry?' said Lupin quickly. 'He's stopped giving you
lessons?'
'If anyone's going to tell Snape it will be me!' he said firmly. 'But
Harry, first of all, you're to go back to Snape and tell him that on
no account is he to stop giving you lessons when Dumbledore hears -'
'Harry there is nothing so important as you learning Occlumency!' said
Lupin sternly. 'Do you understand me? Nothing!'
Next time we see Lupin, it's at the battle in the MoM.
It is worth mentioning that he defends Harry and Neville by jumping
between them and Malfoy.
Next thing we see, Lupin grabs Harry and prevents him to jump through
the veil.
'We can still reach him -' Harry struggled hard and viciously, but
Lupin would not let go... There's nothing you can do, Harry...
nothing... he's gone.'
`He can't come back, Harry,' said Lupin, his voice breaking as he
struggled to contain Harry. `He can't come back, because he's d-'
Lupin holds him for a few minutes
Harry was no longer struggling against Lupin, who maintained a
precautionary grip on his arm nevertheless.
`Here,' said Lupin quietly, and pointing his wand at Neville's legs he
said, `Finite.' The spell was lifted: Neville's legs fell back to the
floor and remained still. Lupin's face was pale. `Let's - let's find
the others. Where are they all, Neville?'
Lupin turned away from the archway as he spoke. It sounded as though
every word was causing him pain.
`Harry - no!' cried Lupin, but Harry had already ripped his arm from
Lupin's slackened grip.
Finally, Lupin is part of the delegation that speak to the Dursleys.
`Hello, Harry' said Lupin, as Mrs Weasley let go of Harry and turned to
greet Hermione. `Hi,' said Harry `I didn't expect ... what are you all
doing here? 'Well,' said Lupin with a slight smile, `we thought we
might have a little chat with your aunt and uncle before letting them
take you home.'
`- And make no mistake, we'll hear about it,' added Lupin pleasantly.
`Take care, Harry,' said Lupin quietly. `Keep in touch.'
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