The Snape/Harry connection (was: what if all teachers were like Snape?)
mnaper2001
mnaperrone at aol.com
Mon Jun 14 19:43:41 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 101238
David:
> My reading of the sweep of canon is that Snape is a fairly tireless
> and effective supporter of Dumbledore. He does, however, have a
> tendency to independence of mind and action, which often takes him
> down the wrong path, and makes him all the more vulnerable to
giving
> in to some of his worse motivations. He also has a tendency to
> believe the worst of Harry, despite the evidence. In these traits,
> as list members have pointed out, he is something of a mirror to
> Harry. This has little to do with moral equivalence, it's just a
> literary observation.
>
Ally:
Just had to say, word. Harry and Snape do seem to walk in each
other's shoes a bit - Snape can't see past Harry's rule-breaking, and
Harry is obviously and understandably put off by the fact that Snape
has hated him since the beginning.
It seems like there is a distinct if subtle pattern here:
1) DD compares James and Snape to Draco and Harry, but who is who in
the present day? It seems to me that in the pensieve scene, James
plays the role of Draco - the unprovoked aggressor. Snape is left to
react, much the way Harry does with Draco.
2) The fact that both are willing to, as you put it, believe the
worst in each other, despite the fact that they have both been
confronted with evidence that that is not the case.
3) And I always think about the occlumency lesson where Snape goes
off about the danger of wearing your emotions on your sleeve and how
that makes you easy prey to V - that seemed like Snape talking about
himself to me. I could imagine Snape having been preyed on b/c his
emotions were so apparent. And Harry is also one who wears his
emotions on his sleeve most of the time.
4) Harry's rage at Snape after Sirius died which comes out of him
blaming wrongly Snape for Sirius' death, is just as misplaced as
Snape's hatred of Harry for the things James did.
There are probably a lot more, but these came to mind fairly easily.
SO, is JKR actually building something here, or are these just
coincidental or otherwise insignificant similarities? I find it hard
to ignore them, b/c there are so many separate incidents in which
they have been shown. They keep recurring but in ways just subtle
enough that they can be missed if you aren't looking closely.
I don't think JKR would do something like use this to build an
epiphany for Snape - and the Snape/Harry somehow related theories are
a little too pat for JKR, I think. But maybe Snape is a blueprint of
things to come for Harry? After all, Harry more closely resembles
Snape at the end of OOTP with his misplaced anger than he ever has in
any of the other books. Maybe Harry will be tempted to actually join
V at some point in Book 6 or 7? Maybe he will otherwise do something
that is so reminiscent of Snape that not even Harry can ignore the
similarities and he has the epiphany?
If Snape and Harry ever do come to an agreement to work together for
the Order, Harry will have to be the one to make the gesture or
request, and Harry is certainly not in a position to take that step
emotionally at this point. But if Harry saw that he and Snape are
more alike than he believed, he might approach Snape for guidance.
It would be a huge step for Harry and Snape would probably be stroked
enough by it that he would respond equally well.
Any other thoughts on the similarities b/n Snape and Harry and what
they could mean?
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