Who knew Snape was a DE Re: What if other teachers behaved like Snape?

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 101311


> Snow replies:
> Very good point, except that JKR protected herself by presenting 
the 
> pencieve scenario with Karkaroff where he states that not all the 
> death eaters new each other. So even the most loyal of servants may 
> have not known every one of Voldemort's servants. What if no one 
> other than Voldemort new of Snape being one of his servants at that 
> point, yes even Lucius or Bella? 


Problem is, Karakoff knew Snape was a DE. He named him at the trial, 
and knew to seek out Snape at Hogwarts when the Dark Mark was getting 
clearer.

Plus, in that Pensieve scene, pg 513 UK, Moody has a "deep look of 
scepticism" when D-Dore stands up to vouch for Snape. That can be 
interpreted to mean Moody had crossed paths with Snape before, while 
Snape was a DE.

 
> What if Snape after being disrespected by DD over the whole 
> humiliating, and to Snape life threatening, prank incident where DD 
> neglects to punish any one of the offenders to the degree that 
Snape  felt they should have been punished, turned to Voldemort 
almost in a  fit of rage over the injustice. Snape then tells 
Voldemort that he  could be of use to him but doesn't want anyone 
else to be aware of his allegiance because he could be of more use to 
him as a spy. 
> 

Couple of points here:

1) V-Mort wasn't going to take orders, or even suggestions, from a 
student. If Snape's identity wasn't revealed (and we know Karakoff 
knew it) it was because V-Mort wished it, not because Snape made a 
demand.

2) We don't know exactly what punishment Sirius received for the 
Prank, although it wasn't expulsion. We can assume James probably got 
off lightly, if he was punished at all, because, after all, he didn't 
help plan the prank and once he found out about it, stopped Snape.

3) One of the things that has always bothered me about the prank was 
why Snape fell for it. He and Sirius despised each other, yet when 
Sirius tells Snape to go into a dark room, he does??? Just how STUPID 
is Snape?

Maybe there is more to it. Maybe Sirius let it be overheard, so Snape 
would think he was getting one over. Maybe Sirius was feigning a 
falling-out with James and the guys.

But that still bugs the hell out of me.

> As far as Lucius and Snape's friendship, do we know for sure that 
> Lucius knows Snape to be a DE? We know they speak to each other but 
> do we know that they are anything more than so-called Slytherin 
> friends? We have been led to believe this by association but are 
they death eater friends?

It really is hard to tell.

Lucius is so connected that it seems hard to believe that he would 
not have heard the testimony, from D-Dore or Karakoff, that Snape was 
a DE. 

Snape could have used any number of excuses. (Yes, Lucius, I 
pretended to turn to their side, but I am waiting as well.) 

This would go a long way toward explaining his behavior at school. He 
has a cover to maintain, after all. And if Draco caught him being 
nice to a mudblood, a Weasley, a Longbottom and Harry Potter, of all 
people, then Draco would say so to his father.

Of course, Snape would need a huge excuse for why he doesn't return 
to the big reunion in GoF. Perhaps the old "I couldn't apparate out 
of Hogwarts" was the best way.

Snape revealing himself to Fudge, who is in constant contact with 
Lucius, also could have revealed his DE secret.

Canon has not specifically said Lucius knows Snape was a DE, but I 
have a hard time seeing how that could be true.

Darrin