What if other teachers behaved like Snape?

darrin_burnett bard7696 at aol.com
Tue Jun 15 15:09:08 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 101357

> > 1) Hermione appears to be the ONLY student who actually did the 
> werewolf 
> > lesson, so Harry's "sin" in omitting a lesson that was recanted as 
> soon as 
> > Lupin returned was shared by the rest of the class as well.
> > 
> > 2) Let us not let this discussion go by with a comment on how 
> reprehensible it 
> > was for Snape to attempt to "out" his fellow teacher in that 
> manner. (Later, he 
> > just blatantly does it.) 
> 
> 
> Mel:
> You didn't answer the questions. Attempts at distraction will win 
> you no points.

Oooh, nasty. If I was a weaker-willed poster, I might go crying to the Admins to 
post the polite and nice rules again.

I just wanted to make sure we didn't lose sight of what Snape was trying to 
accomplish. Such things are very indicative of the man's character.

Or lack thereof, as the case may be.


> I disagree with you that Harry had no 'goal' in beginning Occlumency 
> lessons. I've heard this argument before and it never washes. I used 
> the same one trying to get out of Algebra and it didn't work then, 
> either. (I could be snarky here and say he had a goal of not 
> learning it because it was Snape). He was instructed clearly by 
> DUMBLEDORE to pay attention, work hard and do everything his teacher 
> told him to do. When he whined about it this assertion was backed up 
> by..OH! Lupin! Whaddya know!  Harry's goal was to LEARN OCCLUMENCY 
> TO THE BEST OF HIS ABILITY. Harry's goal was to CLOSE HIS MIND 
FROM  VOLDEMORT. That's what he was told by Dumbledore, Snape, and 
Lupin.  That should have been enough. Next you're going to claim he thought 
> that the 'real' reason he was being made to learn 
> Occlumency was to be found in Snape's Pensieve.

Perhaps you should not worry about what I will claim next, since you look at 
the world so differently than I do. Again, polite and nice wins the race. :)

He was told to do something, but never told why. For Harry, who for all his 
bleating and 15-year-old self-centeredness deserved to know a bit more. 

And again, it is about trust. What exactly in Harry and Snape's relationship 
would give him reason to trust Snape? 

And to answer the question, Harry did do his part to send the lessons off the 
rails when he dove into the Pensieve. But you know what? Thanks to Snape, 
it was a train wreck long before.

 Harry's had 5 years to get familiar with Snape's teaching style for 
> better or worse. You'd think by now he'd have figured out he's not 
> going to get a sweet every time he answers a question correctly.

Ah, so Harry should be USED to it by now. Perhaps he should bend over and 
say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

> BTW, Dumbledore does not blame Snape for the lesson failures, he 
> blames himself.

Yes, for actually believing that Snape could be a grownup! Read between the 
lines once in a while, why don'tcha?

Oops, there I go again.

Darrin





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