Green Light

Jason shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 15 15:55:06 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 101366

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Miller, Gina (JIS)" 
<ginamiller at j...> wrote:
> *                           Gina : You are right. I was thinking 
LV said it.
> Oh well I tried.
> 
> Sarah (me):
> 
> But wait!  You are right, Harry got it from Voldemort's speech a 
few
> paragraphs earlier:
> 
> '"And now you face me, like a man . . . straight-backed and proud, 
the way
> your father died. . . .
> "And now - we duel."'
> 
> Sarah
> *                           
> *                           
> *                          Great! Thanks Sara! I am trying my best 
to piece
> together what happened there that night at GH. We know that Lily 
was there
> and Harry hears her, but I do not think the man he heard was 
James! Because
> PoA when Harry tells Lupin he heard Lily he does not say anything 
but when
> he says he heard his father Lupin asks in a "strange" voice, "You 
heard
> James?" 
> *                              To me this sounds like Lupin knows 
that James
> was not there or at least that he was not the one that told Lily 
to run.
> Obviously from this passage we know that James was killed by LV 
but when and
> where? If he was not there - who was?
> 
> Gina
> 


If James was not there, and it was indeed someone else, how do we 
explain the shadows in the graveyard scene? The explanation we got 
from DD about the brother wand effect was that it caused the wand to 
regurgitate spells from most recent to the oldest until the 
connection is broken. There is no other shadow between Lily and 
James. It can't be Harry's back to the future self because Lily 
refers to him as "your father."

So, if James was not there, LV had not cast a single spell between 
the time he Killed Mr. Potter until he killed Lily.

Also, if it were another man or someone else there, did V not duel 
with him or kill him outright?  


Thoughts, rebuttals?

Jason





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