Green Light
Jason
shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 15 15:55:06 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 101366
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Miller, Gina (JIS)"
<ginamiller at j...> wrote:
> * Gina : You are right. I was thinking
LV said it.
> Oh well I tried.
>
> Sarah (me):
>
> But wait! You are right, Harry got it from Voldemort's speech a
few
> paragraphs earlier:
>
> '"And now you face me, like a man . . . straight-backed and proud,
the way
> your father died. . . .
> "And now - we duel."'
>
> Sarah
> *
> *
> * Great! Thanks Sara! I am trying my best
to piece
> together what happened there that night at GH. We know that Lily
was there
> and Harry hears her, but I do not think the man he heard was
James! Because
> PoA when Harry tells Lupin he heard Lily he does not say anything
but when
> he says he heard his father Lupin asks in a "strange" voice, "You
heard
> James?"
> * To me this sounds like Lupin knows
that James
> was not there or at least that he was not the one that told Lily
to run.
> Obviously from this passage we know that James was killed by LV
but when and
> where? If he was not there - who was?
>
> Gina
>
If James was not there, and it was indeed someone else, how do we
explain the shadows in the graveyard scene? The explanation we got
from DD about the brother wand effect was that it caused the wand to
regurgitate spells from most recent to the oldest until the
connection is broken. There is no other shadow between Lily and
James. It can't be Harry's back to the future self because Lily
refers to him as "your father."
So, if James was not there, LV had not cast a single spell between
the time he Killed Mr. Potter until he killed Lily.
Also, if it were another man or someone else there, did V not duel
with him or kill him outright?
Thoughts, rebuttals?
Jason
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