Snape vs. RW (was: Harry) (was: What if other teachers behaved like Snape?)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jun 15 18:58:36 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 101393
Alla:
> Here is my question though. How much exactly are we
supposed to step from the standards of Real Life teaching
profession to cut Snape a slack?
<snip>
> Yes, Wisarding World is not real. (HA! ) We all know that. :o)
> But I think that some reality standards are still meant to be
apply.<
Pippin:
Nobody's saying Snape's methods ought to be emulated in real
life. But there are real life teachers like Snape, and of course the
inconvenient thing about them is the same as in Snape's case.
Though his methods are horrible, they work. They wouldn't work
for everybody, but they work for him. He has enough presence to
keep his students from tuning him out, no matter how hard they
try. As long as his methods go on working, he isn't likely to
change. If he did start to change, his results (as measured by
OWLs and NEWTs) would probably get worse, because of the
learning curve.
The occlumency failure might get to him. Unfortunately, he knew
that Harry wasn't trying. And it's interesting that once Harry did
make up his mind to banish Voldemort, he was able to oust the
Dark Lord within seconds. Did Snape's lessons have anything to
do with that? It will be darned hard to convince Snape otherwise.
Del makes a good point--Hogwarts is much more authoritarian
and much more dangerous than a real school. So is the
wizarding world. The average wizarding environment is probably
not so cozy as the Burrow nor so creepy as Grimmauld Place,
but very much like Hogwarts. Snapes and Umbridges abound,
few people think corporal punishment is too severe to inflict on
children or House Elves, and nobody would blame you for
treating your subordinates like dirt if you thought they deserved
it.
Talking back just doesn't get you anwhere in a society like that.
One thing you can say for Draco, when he thinks a teacher is no
good he doesn't waste his time acting out in class, he does
something effective about it. He didn't get Hagrid sacked--but
Rubeus's teaching methods improved in a right hurry, I'd say. ;-)
If Harry really wanted to get Snape sacked, he'd have to prove
that Snape was endangering students, and that would be hard to
do. But of course he doesn't want that, he just wants Snape to
treat him differently. Dumbledore wants that too. But was it
realistic? Not under the circumstances. Asking Snape to get over
his grudge against Harry was like asking a recovering alcoholic
to demonstrate drinking responsibly.
Pippin
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