What if other teachers behaved like Snape?

annemehr annemehr at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 17 20:03:39 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 101801

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...>
wrote:
>  
> > Annemehr:
> > It seems certain to me that Snape was able to choose to call up
> > *painful* memories in general. Otherwise, we would have seen 
> plenty of
> > random boring and happy memories mixed in: Harry brushing his 
> teeth,
> > Harry doing homework, Harry flying...
> > 
> > And yes, Cho kissing Harry was a painful memory (at least in part)
> > because of how extremely uneasy he felt at the time.
> > 
> > I don't mean this as an argument against the way Snape taught
> > Occlumency (obviously, Harry would have more motivation to repel 
> Snape
> > when the memories were painful). It's more a point about what
> > Legilimency might be able to do.
> > 
> Potioncat:
> Well, could he go straight to certain memories or not?  How  would 
> you look for a memory you didn't know about?

Annemehr:
I can't say if Snape could go straight to any specific memory. I do
think he was able to call up memories of a certain *type,* that is,
painful ones.

Potioncat:
> First off, we just don't know.  Second, we should go back to the 
> Occlumency lessons and see if Snape directed the conversation before 
> the session.  It seems to me, that those thoughts on the surface 
> would be the ones that would be seen.  If Harry could empty his 
> mind, Snape wouldn't see them.  Being around Snape gave him unhappy 
> feelings which most likely, made upleasant memories available.  Had 
> Lupin been teaching the lesson, perhaps pleasant memories would come 
> up. (I am of course, making my best guess.)

Annemehr:
That's a good point, that facing Snape, Harry would be in an unhappy
mood and thus unhappy memories would be nearer the surface.  However,
not all the memories we saw could have been surface ones. The one of
Ripper chasing Harry up a tree -- Harry hadn't seen Ripper for over
two years. The one about being jealous about Dudley's new tricycle
Harry didn't even remember he had. If Snape were only seeing memories
called up by the superficial feelings of Harry's mind, I wouldn't have
expected those distant, deeper ones. Of course, I too am merely making
my best guess and can't be sure.

Potioncat:
> Along that line, Snape would probably think that LV is not going to 
> present a warm comfortable setting for Harry to work his skills, so 
> why should he?
> 
> Potioncat (just wondering about all this)

Annemehr:
Well, there we agree! 





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