OK we're to THAT point on Snape/Different Topic

tub_of_earwax tub_of_earwax at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 17 23:42:21 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 101815

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> Dzeytoun:
>  >>Lots  of people opine that Snape gets good results in terms 
> of his  students' performance.  I think this is largely 
speculation.  
> I did  an admittedly fast review of canon last night and could 
find 
> no  references in which it was indicated that Snape got good 
> performance  out of his students, that they generally did well on 
> OWLS, that  people regarded him as making students learn, etc.  
> All the  references I could find - and I may well have missed 
> some - speak to  his own personal expertise at potions, NOT to 
> how much his students  learn, etc. <<
> 
> OOP ch 12 US 252
> 
> "...I advise all of you to concentrate your efforts upon 
maintaining 
> the high-pass level I have come to expect from my O.W.L. 
> students." 
> 
> Oblique confirmation that Snape's expectations are not 
> unjustified comes from Tonks and McGonagall. Tonks had a 
> hard time qualifiying as an Auror  --evidently despite Snape's 
> strictness about admission to NEWT potions, there's no 
> shortage of candidates and the Auror office can afford to be 
> selective. They haven't taken anyone on in the last three years, 
> McGonagall says, so they must be fully staffed.
> 
> Pippin

I do see your point, Pippin, but that's not always the case. In 
Holland they have huge problems in the health sector (shortage of 
doctors, nurses, you name it), there are enormous waiting lists to 
be medically assisted in Holland, and still they have a system of a 
limited number of students who may study medicine. Every year there 
is a large amount of people who want to study it. The qualifications 
are: you have to have completed VWO (highest form of secondary 
education) succesfully with the medical sciences package (biology, 
chemistry, physics, certain type of math, including algebra, 
calculus, trigonometry, geometry etc. If your average is higher than 
an 8 you can study medicine, if you have lower than an 8 (which is 
most everyone) you can be chosen randomly (they pick names out of a 
hat so to speak). Now that they have shortage you'd think they'd up 
the number of people who are allowed to study it - but no, they 
don't. Then again, the WW doesn't exactly work like RW Holland. So 
you're probably right, just thought I'd point it out anyway. 

Sometimes you need to set certain standards. It's better to have a 
small amount of very competent potions masters or aurors than to 
have a large amount of people whho mess up all the time. I mean, 
who's hands would you put your life into? A couple of competent 
aurors or an army of less-than-average to average aurors who are 
more likely to mess up? So I understand his selectivity. 

*Lara*. 





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