Harry @ Godric's Hollow - (TIME-TRAVEL RELATED)
vmonte
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Fri Jun 18 11:14:10 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 101867
Lucinda428 wrote:
I completely agree that POA (movie) is making the time theme even
more clear than it was in the book. I noted most of the things you
have in that regard. I'm sure time is going to be one of the keys,
because of the room in the Ministry of Magic in OOTP which is
devoted to some form of time experiment. It is irrelevant to the
Book 5 story but quite a lot is made of it. (Maybe a more
sophisticated device than the time turner awaits us in later
books.) I've also just noticed that the first time we meet
Dumbledore, in Privet Drive, he consults "a very odd watch".
vmonte:
Yes, someone months ago noticed the same thing about DD's watch. He
consults it throughout the books. Perhaps this is his time-traveling
device.
Lucinda428:
Between your view that Lupin thinks James wasn't really there, and
Vmonte's view that it was Harry's body, not James's, in the rubble
(both of which are fascinating ideas) the question arises - where
WAS James? (Surely a stray stag would have been noticed in Godric's
Hollow?) If Lupin knew the answer, it would suggest it was a full
moon and James was off minding him, but wasn't it very dark the
night Harry was deposited on the Dursleys' doorstep?
vmonte:
It was dark. It was also 24 hours after the Godric's Hollow attack.
Lucinda428:
...the Harry we have always known actually IS James (time-turned).
But that won't work because (a) Harry has Lily's eyes, and (b) those
who knew James think Harry is similar but not the same. Where it
gets murky (you thought it already HAD?) is that both of them bear an
almost equally striking resemblance to Tom Riddle. So if all three
of those characters were, by some quirk of time, 18 the day Harry
Lived, they would ALL look similar. Anybody want to run with THAT
ball?
vmonte:
Page 641 of OOTP, U.S. version
"Excitement exploded in the pit of his stomach: It was as though he
was looking at himself but with deliberate mistakes. James's eyes
were hazel, his nose was slightly longer than Harry's, and there was
no scar on his forehead, but the had the same thin face, same mouth,
same eyebrows. James's hair stuck up at the back exactly as Harry's
did, his hands could have been Harry's, and Harry could tell that
when James stood up, they would be within an inch of each other's
heights."
I really like how JKR describes James appearance here--"deliberate
mistakes". If Harry is seen running around during GH, he would be
mistaken for James. If he is captured by a DE they may realize he is
not James because of his eyes. I do have one comment though. If
Harry is captured and then taken to GH by the DE's so that the Potter
family is killed together, it may very well be Lily who recognizes
him as her son (and no one else). Voldemort doesn't really pay
attention to small details does he. Besides, he doesn't see James on
a daily basis, unlike Snape does. Snape, hmmmm now that is
interesting
vmonte
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