Question for Snape Bashers

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 101899

> Darrin replied :
> > Why should we expect him to do that?
> > 
> > For the same reason I expect my neighbor not  to let his dog crap on
> > my lawn.
> > 
> > For the same reason I expect the person behind me at the grocery 
> > store not to bump into my heels with a shopping cart.
> > 
> > For the same reason I expect my co-workers to do their job and not 
> > stick it on me.
> 
> Del answers :
> Yep, and if they do, you're going to do something about it, right ?
> Well, I'm still waiting for someone, *anyone*, to do something about
> Snape's classes.

You expect a group of students to band together and say "Hell no, we won't 
go!"

All I keep hearing about is the culture of abuse that is somehow acceptable in 
these schools, even though NO OTHER teacher behaves like Snape. 
Wouldn't that culture also mean kids aren't going to be as independent? 



> Darrin wrote :
> > And I disagree that D-Dore or others have not "forbidden him." 
> > No one said Snape wasn't clever and capable of being secretive. And 
> > like many abusers, he has instilled such fear in his victims that 
> > they could be afraid to speak out for fear of retribution.
> > 
> > We don't know what D-Dore knows, frankly.
> 
> Del replies :
> We're talking about someone(DD) who knows when Harry leaves his
> dormitory in the middle of the night covered by an Invisibility Cloak.
> I won't believe that he doesn't know *exactly* what's going on during
> Potions.

Fine, don't believe it. But D-Dore's public responses to Snape indicate that if 
he knew everything that was going on in Snape's class, he'd have a different 
reaction. 


> As for the kids being too scared to talk, I don't buy that either.
> First because most of them are NOT that scared of Snape. Only Harry
> and Neville are truly abused after all. And second because I'm sure at
> least one of them *would* have mentioned that in their letter to their
> parents. When one teacher terrorised my sister's class (11-year old
> kids), it took only a few months for most parents to find out about it.

Hermione is verbally abused and is left to fend for herself after an injury. Ron 
is also verbally abused.



> > Darrin
> > -- Finds it's better to expect people to behave themselves.
> 
> Del replies :
> I agree. But they should be given incentives to do so when they don't
> find it in themselves to behave. Nobody's giving Snape any incentive
> to behave, why should he care ?
> 

Even if I bought, which I don't, the premise that people above Snape should 
be doing more to stop this, that still doesn't mean Snape is right.

You are talking about Snape as my sister talks about her three-year-old niece. 
"No one says it's wrong, so keep doing it!"

This is a man who is nearly 40!

Darrin