What's wrong with being bad ?

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No: HPFGUIDX 102040

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at y...> 
wrote:
> Alla:
> "Right Neville," said Professor Lupin. "First things first: what 
> would you say s the thing that firhgtens you most in the world?"
> Neville's lips moved, but no noise came out.
> "Didn't catch that,Neville,sorry," said Professor Lupin cheerfully.
> Neville looked around rather wildly, as though begging someone to 
> help him, then said, in barely more than a wisper,
> "Professor Snape" - PoA, p.102, UK edition.
> 
> Now, let's see. The boy, whose parents were tortured to insanity by 
> the Death Eaters, is not afraid of Voldemort or his servants.
> 
> He is terrified most in the world of his Professor. If those are not 
> he effects of the abuse, I truly don't know what is.  Thanks G-D for 
> Lupin's psychotherapy, or poor boy would never be able to let his 
> fears out in the open. :o)

Kneasy:
Laughable. 
He chose Snape because he didn't want the other kids to know about 
his parents.
If he'd said Voldy or Bella everybody would have wanted to know why.
Even two years later at St Mungo's he's extremely embarrassed when he's
caught visiting his parents.
Neville doesn't want to be pitied,  but some posters don't see it. In fact, 
they want to insist on inflicting it on him.
> 
> 
> Alla:
> Eh? It does not happen in Hogwarts every day or at least we don't 
> witness it. Filtch talking about physical punishments? Maybe he just 
> wishes that they existed.
> 
Kneasy:
Your definition of abuse, i.e. Snape, occurs every day at Hogwarts.

> Alla:
> Do we hear any other teacher ever mentioning them? Could you give me 
> a cite, where Artur received physical punishment, please.
> 
> 
Kneasy:
GoF chap 31 -
Mrs Weasley grinned her eyes twinkling.
 "Your  father and I had been out for a night-time stroll," she  said.
"He got caught by Apollyon Pringle - he was the caretaker in those days -
your father's still got the marks."

> Alla:
> I already addressed this issue in a different post. I most certainly 
> don't want phantasy to be real, but many things in it still has to 
> ring at least emotional truth to me.
> 
Kneasy:
Why complain when it does? Isn't that one of the definitions of good
writing? To be touched by a tale and then to complain because of it 
seems very odd IMO. I suggest that you try something less emotionally
demanding if it's going to upset you that much.  

> Alla: Kneasy, how could you divide one from another? Students do not 
> know Snape as  aperson. They only know him as a teacher. That's the 
> only way he can demand respect from them - as a teacher.
> 
>
Kneasy:
That's exactly what he is demanding. He has no interest in personal
relationships, understanding, bonding or any of the other sociological
crap foisted onto society by emotional cripples or do-good frauds hyping
a new pop psychology paperback. He is a senior teacher, he demands
the respect due to one. Nothing else. 

There's a modern fashion that teachers can be more than that, they can
be pals, confidants, buddies. Not in Hogwarts, thank God. Traditional
dividing lines are maintained. Everybody knows exactly where they stand.
No misunderstandings as to who's in charge, no tears because "I  thought
he liked me!" when discipline is belatedly enforced. Hogwarts is formal 
for the most part, Even Lupin is referred to as 'Professor'. Since Snape
also glories in that title why shouldn't he be referred to as such? It is an
*earned* title and Harry is being deliberately disrespectful  by omitting it.
 
> 
> > Kneasy:
> > Suppose by some miracle your witch-hunt (wizard-hunt?) of Snape
> > succeeded beyond your wildest dreams and everybody on the site no
> > longer posted contrary views. What would that mean? That you had 
> > imposed your own interpretations onto everyone else. The exact 
> opposite
> > of what this site is about.
> >
> 
> 
> Alla: ?????????
> 
Kneasy: 
Exactly. I've seen posts where Slytherins have been compared to the KKK, 
to the Nazis and name calling as equivalent to, or likely to lead to, another
Holocaust.
Plain silly. And disrespectful to those who survived the reality.
And I  shall continue to  say so.