What's wrong with being bad ?
lifeavantgarde
musicofsilence at hotmail.com
Sat Jun 19 18:10:18 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 102047
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch"
>>><delwynmarch at y...> wrote:
<snip>
He doesn't seem to like niceness and sweetness and light, and seems
to prefer darkness and cruelty.
And I'm wondering : what's wrong with that ? Isn't he entitled to
choose as he wants ? It makes his and others' lifes harder, but so
what ? Isn't it still his right as a human being to live as he
chooses ? If others disagree (and many do), it is their right to
fight him and prevent him from hurting them. But if he likes
darkness rather than light, and cruelty rather than niceness, what
Higher Rule is he breaking, if he doesn't believe in a Higher Force?
<<<
>>Kneasy:
<snip>
OK, that's the basic rules (or some of them) that I live by. How do
they impinge on Snape? What effect have his actions had? Any that
are significant? Any effect at all?
He passes snide comments. So what? What are their effects? Minimal.
He throws Harry out of the Occlumency teaching. With what effect?
Not much, Harry wasn't going to learn anyway. Harry had already
decided not to co-operate. Any action by Snape was icing on the
cake - it just gave Harry *his* excuses - "It's all Snape's fault!"
Wrong. Does not compute.
<snip><<
Stefanie: I have a theory about Snape's possible actions in the
past, but a canonical action that you didn't discuss is Snape's
actions in the Shrieking Shack in PoA. Snape had bound Lupin and was
brandishing a wand with
"Snape pointed his wand straight between Black's eyes.
'Give me a reason,' he whispered. 'Give me a reason to do it, and I
swear I will.'" (PoA 19)
In essence he incapacitated Lupin and was threatening (possibly
lethally) Sirius. And if Harry and Hermione hadn't used the Time
Turner to stem the consequenses of his actions? Sirius would've been
kissed and Lupin may've either been terminated as a rogue werewolf
or kissed as well. Snape wanted that to happen ("Two more for
Azkaban tonight" "Vengeance is very sweet" "They'll be very pleased
to see you, Black... pleased enough to give you a little kiss" "I'll
drag the werewolf. Perhaps the dementors will have a kiss for him
too" [PoA 19])
Snape knew nothing about the Time Turner thwarting these plans -- as
far as he knew, Lupin and Sirius would be "dealt with" with
consequenses he was prepared to accept. Even though these didn't
come to pass, Snape voiced them all. He had thought about them. He
thought the were going to happen and was pleased with the thought.
Taking two lives into his own hands to end them? Is this excusable
as "dark leanings" within his rights? We hardly exuse Voldemort for
them.
Stefanie
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