What's wrong with being bad ?

lifeavantgarde musicofsilence at hotmail.com
Sat Jun 19 18:10:18 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 102047

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt" 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch" 

>>><delwynmarch at y...> wrote:
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He doesn't seem to like niceness and sweetness and light, and seems 
to prefer darkness and cruelty.

And I'm wondering : what's wrong with that ? Isn't he entitled to 
choose as he wants ? It makes his and others' lifes harder, but so 
what ? Isn't it still his right as a human being to live as he 
chooses ? If others disagree (and many do), it is their right to 
fight him and prevent him from hurting them. But if he likes 
darkness rather than light, and cruelty rather than niceness, what 
Higher Rule is he breaking, if he doesn't believe in a Higher Force?
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>>Kneasy:
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OK, that's the basic rules (or some of them) that I live by. How do 
they impinge on Snape? What effect have his actions had? Any that 
are significant? Any effect at all?

He passes snide comments. So what? What are their effects? Minimal. 
He throws  Harry out of the Occlumency teaching. With what effect? 
Not much, Harry wasn't going to learn anyway. Harry had already 
decided not to co-operate. Any action by Snape was icing on the 
cake - it just gave Harry *his* excuses - "It's all Snape's fault!" 
Wrong. Does not compute.
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Stefanie: I have a theory about Snape's possible actions in the 
past, but a canonical action that you didn't discuss is Snape's 
actions in the Shrieking Shack in PoA. Snape had bound Lupin and was 
brandishing a wand with 
"Snape pointed his wand straight between Black's eyes.
'Give me a reason,' he whispered. 'Give me a reason to do it, and I 
swear I will.'" (PoA 19)

In essence he incapacitated Lupin and was threatening (possibly 
lethally) Sirius. And if Harry and Hermione hadn't used the Time 
Turner to stem the consequenses of his actions? Sirius would've been 
kissed and Lupin may've either been terminated as a rogue werewolf 
or kissed as well. Snape wanted that to happen ("Two more for 
Azkaban tonight" "Vengeance is very sweet" "They'll be very pleased 
to see you, Black... pleased enough to give you a little kiss" "I'll 
drag the werewolf. Perhaps the dementors will have a kiss for him 
too" [PoA 19])

Snape knew nothing about the Time Turner thwarting these plans -- as 
far as he knew, Lupin and Sirius would be "dealt with" with 
consequenses he was prepared to accept. Even though these didn't 
come to pass, Snape voiced them all. He had thought about them. He 
thought the were going to happen and was pleased with the thought.

Taking two lives into his own hands to end them? Is this excusable 
as "dark leanings" within his rights? We hardly exuse Voldemort for 
them.

Stefanie






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