Thought about Headquarters security

[rzl46]

No: HPFGUIDX 102258

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <asian_lovr2 at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rzl46" <rzl46 at y...> wrote:
> > 
> > I knew there would be people who disagreed with the possibility, 
but 
> > I was more interested in discussing the "what if?" possibilities.
> > If you don't agree with the possibility of Voldemort gaining 
access 
> > in this manner, suppose then that Voldemort is in hiding near the 
> > area where Dumbledore informs some other character of the 
location 
> > of the headquarters. In that manner, then Voldemort has access to 
> > the headquarters.  What do you think might happen then?
> 
> Asian_lovr2/Steve:
> 
> "What if..." can be a dangerous game. Generally, my rule for
> (Obsessive/Compulsive) analysis of the books (past/present/future) 
is
> not 'is it possible', but 'is it probable'.
> 
> If I understand you correctly, what you are saying is not actually
> about Occlumency or Legilimency, that was merely an example; what 
you
> are saying is, let's start by assuming that Voldemort finds out 
about
> 12 Grimauld Place, and speculate about what he would do with that
> knowledge?
> 
> Would he attack? ...full force direct attack? ...other?
> 
> Would he try and enter by stealth?
> 
> In a way, that might be a fair question. Although, it's difficult to
> predict how it could happen, it seems reasonable that at some point
> Voldemort will find out about 12 Grimauld Place.
> 
> I think the only way he could actually get in, is to some how
> directly, indirectly, or magically coerce someone into betraying the
> Order and leading Voldemort's followers into the Order's 
Headquarters. 
> 
> I'm thinking in a manner similar to a muggle getting into The Leaky
> Cauldron. Muggles can't see it and therefore can't find it, but a
> magical person could lead them in. That's how Hermione's parents get
> into Diagon Alley; Hermione has to lead them into a place they 
can't see. 
> 
> 12 Grimauld Place is the same way, except now, not even magical 
folks
> can see it. And, just like The Leaky Cauldron and Diagon Alley, 12
> Grimauld Place takes up no physical space in the real world. 
> 
> So, being lead in by a betrayer is the only way that I could see
> Voldemort or his followers getting into Grimauld Place.
> 
> Now the big question  is, who is the betrayer?
> 
> Answer: don't know, but definitely NOT Percy.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Steve

You understand me very well.  I think this is an area of the series 
we as a group have not really explored.  

Obviously, if Snape is the double agent some members suspect he is, 
he could be the one to lead the Death Eaters to Grimauld Place.  

But JKR rarely chooses the most obvious person.  Snape or Percy would 
be the most obvious choices.  So I think it will be someone like 
Tonks.  We in general like her.  We trust her.  She's an auror, so 
she should be able to spot a dark wizard.  But she is do darned 
clumsy.  Of all the members of the Order we know of, I think she is 
the one most likely to slip up and give away the location of the 
Headquarters.  

MaggieB