SHIP Hermione & Ron

[hermionekitten9]

No: HPFGUIDX 102734

Anasazi wrote :
> Oh, spending time with your favorite guy alone during Prefect duty
> is a very big clue. I think Hermione agrees with you too... now, 
let
> us consult canon and look at the moment Hermione heard the news
> that there was a another Prefect in Grimmauld Place.
>
> <START QUOTE>
> "Hermione came tearing into the room, her cheeks flushed and her
> hair flying. There was an envelope in her hand.
> 'Did you - did you get -?'
> She spotted the badge in Harry's hand and let out a shriek.'I knew
> it!' she said excitedly, brandishing her letter. 'Me too, Harry, me
> too!'
> 'No,' said Harry quickly, pushing the badge back into Ron's
> hand. 'It's Ron,not me.'
> 'It - what? i-'
> 'Ron's prefect, not me,' Harry said.
> 'Ron?' said Hermione, her jaw dropping. 'But ... are you sure? I
> mean -'
> <END QUOTE>
>
> Now, if Hermione wanted some alone time with her boy toy Ron, why
> wouldn't she wish for Ron to get the badge? See how she says "I 
knew
> it!" as if she had dreamed of sharing the position with Harry. And
> te "But... are you sure?" only makes things worse. And remember,
> this is not my interpretation... THIS IS CANON.

Del replies :
Oh yes it is your interpretation ;-) !
I never implied that Hermione *wanted* to spend time alone with Ron. 
I
just said that *JKR* wrote it this way.
And I don't believe it was *disappointment* that Hermione expressed 
on
learning who was the male Prefect, I think it was pure and sheer
*astonishment*. Just like Ron minutes before, she simply can't 
believe
it, because, just like the Twins, she was *so sure* it would be 
Harry.
Harry is the leader, the one who always gets the attention (whether 
he
wants it or not). Ron is the follower, definitely not Prefect
material. And remember also that Hermione rarely guesses wrongly. So
she's bound to be quite flabbergasted at learning that she made such 
a
huge mistake. A few lines after the end of your quote, she's 
described
as "looking thoroughly bewildered". Bewildered, not disappointed.


Anasazi wrote :
> There's one thing in particular that I took a bit of offense to...
>
> > Del replies :
> > And it's Harry who took the decision for them both anyway :
> > Hermione didn't have a choice.
>
> Before replying to this, I should state that Hermione is my 
favorite
> character in the books, so I may get a little bit passionate about
> this.
>
> This sounds a bit chauvinistic, in a way implying that Hermione 
(the
> main female character in the book) has no choice but to follow the
> alpha male in her life, Harry. Maybe if the story was set in the
> Middle Ages I can see that this might be correct, but is not!

Del replies :
Don't get all worked up ! I was replying to a very specific point.
Let's read the scene :

(OoP, UK edition, p 603-604
"Harry," said a hoarse voice in Harry's ear. "Hermione..."
Harry looked round and saw Hagrid's enormous bearded face (snip
description of Hagrid)
"Listen," he whispered, "can yeh come with me ? Now ? While 
ev'ryone's
watchin' the match ?"
"Er... can't it wait, Hagrid ?" asked Harry. "Till the match is 
over ?"
"No," said Hagrid. "No, Harry, it's gotta be now... while ev'ryone's
lookin' the other way... please ?"
Hagrid's nose was gently dripping blood. His eyes were both 
blackened.
Harry had not seen him this close-up since his return to the school;
he looked utterly woebegone.
"Course," said Harry at once, "course we'll come."

It's pretty clear to me that Hermione wasn't consulted at all in this
decision. Hagrid talked to Harry, and Harry said " *we* will come". 
Of
course, Hermione could still have refused to go, but that would have
been showing a huge lack of loyalty to both Harry and Hagrid. She was
stuck, she had to go, whether she wanted to or not.

Del

kitten says
I just wanted to add that hermione says herself that they *didn't* 
want to go.

"Well no," Said Hermione, streaching out a placatory hand toward 
him. "But Ron, we didn't want to leave... we had to!"

and harry implies that they had no choice...

"it was Hagrid," said Harry. "He decided to tell us why he's been 
covered im injuries ever since he got back from the giants. He 
wanted us to go into the forest with him, we had no choice, you know 
how he gets...Anyway..."

both the quotes are from OOTP, O.W.L.S, page 705, american 
hardback... 

kitten 
who's sorry for interfering on Del's and Anasazi debate that they 
have going... just wanted to add my to knuts-g-