Neville and the Prophecy (was The Longbottoms-a theory)

arrowsmithbt arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com
Fri Jun 25 14:07:07 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 102815

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon at h...> wrote:
> 
> 4. God forbid! Harry kills Neville (Imperio threaders take note!) 
> and Voldemort can never be defeated.
> 

A slight digression - based on an observation that I can't claim 
credit for - it's from a years old post I came across while browsing 
and that I haven't been able to find again. (Thank you Yahoo!)
But it did cause me furiously to  think.

GoF chap. 34:
....said Voldemort softly. "Answer me! Imperio!"
And Harry felt, for the *third time* in his life, the sensation...."
(my emphases).

Third time? How does he reach this figure? 

The first occasion we know of is Crouch!Moody, who we are told
(GoF chap. 15) "put Harry through his paces four times in a row".
Voldy in the graveyard makes it five.

So  maybe it's not the number of *times* the Curse was thrown but
the number of *occasions* on which it was thrown. But there only 
seem to be two that I  can find. Maybe I've missed one somewhere
but I don't think so. If my count is accurate (and assuming that JKR
hasn't accidentally miscounted) then somewhere in the first 4 books
(or even before?) Harry has been Imperio!ed without making it 
obvious to the reader. 

I don't  think we can count the climax in PS/SS as an Imperius 
moment, for while Harry obeys some of Quirrell!Mort's instructions 
he doesn't obey others. Besides, he's not described as having that 
floating sense of happiness and detachment that he feels  on the
other two occasions.

So, to paraphrase a recent thread - who and when?

Answers on a Post Card to 'Conspiracies Unlimited'

Kneasy



 





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