Lupin's Motives? (was Re: Lupin was the spy)

tookishgirl_111 tookishgirl_111 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 25 20:55:28 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 102859

Snow wrote: 
> It is quite possible that Sirius assumed that James switched to 
> Peter as secret keeper but that Lily may have questioned Sirius' 
> loyalty, to herself and James, because of this last minute request. 
> Lily feeling suspicious of Sirius' behavior could have suggested 
> to James that they should rethink their position and entrust Lupin 
> instead so that Sirius wouldn't know whom the secret keeper actually 
> was in case Lily's suspicions were correct. 

Rebecca wrote: 
> (perhaps they were less suspicious of him that Sirius was--which 
> begs the question, why was Sirius more suspicious of Lupin than he 
> was of Peter?). 
 
Bren:
> The thing about ESE!Lupin theory that bugs me is -- what does Lupin 
> gain by all this? I was under the impression that Voldemort & co. 
> hated *half*... EVERYTHING. True, VM might have been the only one 
> who knew of Lupin's true ally (so DEs' hatred of half-humans wouldn't 
> matter), but I can't imagine Voldemort welcoming Lupin with open 
> arms. Although, who would say NO to someone willing to spy one's 
> enemy (ie. the Order)? But I thought Lupin feared that his friends 
> would left him. He wanted to be liked, very badly. He couldn't have 
> his Prefect authority over them. Sure, he might not want all that 
> now, but 15 years ago I think he still did. So what made him decide 
> to betray his friends? The only friends who accepted him for who he 
> is, not what he is. Is Lupin that indecent? <snip>


Although I've never really believed in the ESE Lupin idea, I could 
see how others could and so, on their behalf, I will post a wild 
thought.  

Lupin, more so than just about anyone else (possibly aside from DD) 
seems to be totally in control of his emotions.  He seems to be far 
more calculating than others when it comes to making decisions 
concerning just about everything, including what may be (what he 
considers) in his best interests in the end.  This can lead to good 
things in some - such as not raising to emotional bait - but for 
those who may be evil it can be a problem for the good guys.  Let's 
says that Lupin is the betrayer, it would seem to me that he would 
definately be the one least likely to feel guilt and therefore easily 
capable to continue his double-crossing and go unnoticed.  

Concerning his teen self, maybe he calculated the odds of his success 
given his "condition" amongst the average wizard, versus his possible 
gains in working for VM?

As far as VM taking his information?  If he thought it was viable I 
have no doubt he would take it and use it to his dark advantage 
without question.  This doesn't mean that he would like, or even 
accept, Lupin - in fact, it's more than likely that he'd kill of the 
ESE Lupin as soon as his usefulness is over.  Which is another reason 
that, were Lupin doing all this evilness, it's a good thing that he 
doesn't allow his emotions to get in the way; becuase he can keep on 
double-crossing the Order without guilt.

Tooks (who really doesn't believe in ESE!Lupin but likes to look at 
all points of view anyway)






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