Conspiracies Unlimited (was Re: Neville and the Prophecy)
quigonginger
quigonginger at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 26 14:48:17 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 102908
Kneasy asked the question that has bugged us for years:
> GoF chap. 34:
> ....said Voldemort softly. "Answer me! Imperio!"
> And Harry felt, for the *third time* in his life, the sensation...."
> (my emphases).
>
> Third time? How does he reach this figure?
>
> The first occasion we know of is Crouch!Moody, who we are told
> (GoF chap. 15) "put Harry through his paces four times in a row".
> Voldy in the graveyard makes it five.
>
> So maybe it's not the number of *times* the Curse was thrown but
> the number of *occasions* on which it was thrown. But there only
> seem to be two that I can find. Maybe I've missed one somewhere
> but I don't think so. If my count is accurate (and assuming that JKR
> hasn't accidentally miscounted) then somewhere in the first 4 books
> (or even before?) Harry has been Imperio!ed without making it
> obvious to the reader.
(snip)
Ginger responds, tentatively:
This is stretching it, but I knew I remembered Harry feeling like
that at some other point in the books. I found it.
GoF US, p. 103: ...but then the music started and Harry stopped
worrying about them not being human- in fact, he stopped worrying
about anything at all. The Veela had started to dance, and Harry's
mind had gone completely and blissfully blank."
Compare this to p. 231, when C/M puts him under the Imperious: "It
was the most wonderful feeling. Harry felt a floating sensation as
every thought and worry in his head was gently wiped away, leaving
nothing but a vague, untracable happiness."
And to what you quoted, in part above, (US p. 661) "And Harry felt,
for the third time in his life, the sensation that his mind had been
wiped of all thought.... Ah, it was bliss, not to think, it was as
though he were floating, dreaming..."
So now, O Great Master O' Conspiracy, we ponder:
Did JKR mean this? Or is it a happy coincidence?
Are the Veela practicing some sort of inate Imperious?
If this is the case, are the Veela inately evil? Natural allies of
LV? Inherantly Dark Creatures, regardless of their human appearance?
Will we see them joining the Dark side?
Is Bill in danger?
Could he be the unwitting traitor we have wondered about in previous
threads, which wonder if such a person might enter the storyline?
If you sue a parsley farmer do they garnish his wages?
Ok, forget the last one.
ESE!Veela, anyone?
Ginger, who never did like Fleur.
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