Giants/Half-Giants/Metamorphmagus/TMR's relatives/H&H siblings?

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at wicca.net
Sun Jun 27 12:04:43 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 102979

Miss Petra Pan wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/102219 :

<< Given what we know of the history between the giants and humans
(namely the WW), what might be reasons on the giants' part for and
against siding with Dumbledore? What are the reasons for and against
siding with Voldemort and his DEs? >>

Given what Hagrid told us of his expedition to the giants, it seems
likely that their main reason for assisting one or the other side in
the wizards' war would be their expectation of acquiring useful
magical artifacts as payment or loot. As someone posted, it seems they
may not be intelligent enough to distinguish one 'side' from the other. 

However, if they have historical considerations, history will have
taught them that populations of witches and wizards large enough to
'out-gun' the local giants is what took their homelands away and
pushed them to this last, crowded, reservation. Therefore, the idea of
reducing the wizarding population to a less threatening size, by
killing a lot of them, as some of the Death Eaters intend, would seem
to be in their self-interest. Certainly they would be repulsed by
Dumbledore's side's intention of preventing many murders of wizarding
folk. However, many listies say that the Death Eaters scorn non-human
magical folk as much as Draco and Kreachur scorn werewolves and Draco
scorns half-giants. If/when the giants figure out that the Dark side
despises them, they will not want to help it. Their most reasonable
reaction would be to pray that the two sides manage to wipe each other
out completely, thus making the world safe for giants.

Meri wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/102446 :

<< Here's my question and I know it doesn't quite relate specifically
to the chapter, but how on Earth did Hagrid's giantess mother and
tiny little human father concieve a child? >>

When this question is asked on list, the usual answer is "Engorgement
Charms". 

I believe that magic is SO powerful that it even explains how being
half-giant on the FATHER'S side is possible.

<< How did they meet and marry? Is there some wizarding singles
network out there? >>

There presumably is some version of a wizarding singles network --
maybe matchmakers, or public dances -- but it's hard to believe that
giants, hags, goblins, house elves, centaurs, or even known
werewolves, would be allowed to take part in it. In PoA, Harry saw a
hag eating a plate of raw liver at The Leaky Cauldron. Maybe that, or
the Hog's Head, is where Hagrid's parents met. It seems to me that The
Three Broomsticks wouldn't make a giant feel welcome. Or maybe they
met out in the wilderness. What I wonder is, what did they see in each
other? 

<< also shudders to think of how Fleur's veela gramdmere and human
grandpere got together as well...  >>

Swan Lake?

annunathradien wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/102505 :

<< You can learn to be a metamorphmagus too after enough practice >>

Excuse me, my memory is appallingly bad, can you point me to the canon
that metamorphmagism can be learned?  

Phil Boswell wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/102672 :

<< Makes you wonder which wizard family Tom Riddle's Mother belonged
to, and whether there are more of *his* family to appear! >>

On Rowling's website, in the RUMORS tabloid, one of the Feb 2004 items is:
<< Rumor: Voldemort is Harry's real father/grandfather/close relative
of some description.
Exclusive: No, no, no, no, no. You lot have been watching much too
much StarWars. James is DEFINITELY Harry's father. Doesn't everybody
Harry meets say 'you look just like your father'? And hasn't
Dumbledore already told Harry that Voldemort is the last surviving
descendent of Salazar Slytherin? Just to clarify -- this means that
Harry is NOT a descendent of Salazar Slytherin. >>

The important part to me in that JKR as herself, not just as authorial
voice, says that Voldemort is the last descendent of Slytherin. That
ensures that "last ancestor" was an error rather than a time travel
hint. It also indicates that there are no living relatives of TMR's
witch mother (except TMR), unless one thinks that saying "Voldemort"
rather than "Riddle" hints at the "Voldemort is an immortal evil
entity who possessed TMR when its previous host, Grindelwald, was
destroyed" theory.  

McMax wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/102858 :

<< Harry and Hermione can not be siblings. If they were then they
couldn't be in the same year at Hogwarts. >>

It is very possible that the cut-off date for birthdays for entering
First Year at Hogwarts is September 1. In that case, Hermione, whose
birthday is September 19, would have been born in 1979 and be almost
12 when she entered Hogwarts. Harry, born July 31, 1980, would have
been one of the youngest kids in his year. November, December,
January, February, April, May, June, July = 8 months ... Harry would
only have to be a *tiny* bit premature for them to be siblings. Of
course, I am certain they are not siblings, because Hermione has to be
Muggle-born. 





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