24 hours - again

[arrowsmithbt]

No: HPFGUIDX 103282

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "slgazit" <slgazit at s...> wrote:
> 
> That is true, but it proves nothing. There is no evidence that the
> people that Moody described were the entire order. Harry stopped
> looking after seeing his parents in the picture. There could have been
> others, including people who joined after the picture was taken -
> don't forget that Voldemort's reign of terror lasted more than 10
> years (sorry I don't remember where it said that but I think Hagrid
> quoted 11 years for that). The picture must have been taken fairly
> early to depict all original members, considering the casualty rate. I
> believe that the evidence for McGonagal being in the original order
> and in DD's closest circle is strong starting with the first chapter
> of the first book and throughout the series.
> 
Kneasy:
I can't agree. There is no evidence that MM was in the Order. And the
fact that she sat in a street for 16 hours after hearing rumours with
no information from DD tends to support that view. And DD's greeting;
"Fancy seeing you here, Professor McGonagall" does not indicate that
DD had passed instructions to her either. She was out of the loop IMO.
Now you may be correct; maybe she was in the Order. But as things 
stand there is no *evidence*  that she was.

She may not even be a member of the resurrected Order. Yes, she has 
been seen in the vicinity of GP (in Muggle clothes), but IIRC she has 
never been reported as attending a meeting, nor has her name been 
mentioned inside the house  as having a connection with the Order. 

  
> slgazit: 
> Really? Who else had access to that information besides Hagrid who is
> utterly loyal to DD? Proceeding on we see how in GoF the teachers who
> go with DD to save Harry from Crouch Jr. are Snape and McGonagal. In
> OoP she is the only Hogwarts teacher who knows of the real purpose of
> Harry's "private lessons" with Snape (I don't think even Hagrid
> knows). There are plenty of other examples. Like a good guerilla
> leader, DD tells no one what he is up to unless he must.
> 
Kneasy:
Everybody  seems  to have access to the information. The owls were 
flapping around the countryside before MM got to Privet Drive.
Saving Harry from Crouch!Moody was not solely the function or
responsibility of the Order. It happened at Hogwarts, not the Ministry
or some other public place. As a senior teacher and head of Harry's 
House, she would be involved. Similarly Harry's extra 'tuition'; she
would expect to be informed, just as she was with Hermione and the
Timeturner.

Minerva is an anomoly. She is not definitively fish, nor fowl, nor good
red herring.