Concentrating on the "Prince" part
Stephanie
s_karmol at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 29 17:04:09 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 103376
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie" <s_karmol at y...>
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "gregory_lynn"
> <gregory_lynn at y...> wrote:
> > Prince really has two meanings. First, there is the title of
> > nobility and it's loose applications. One could consider Draco
> > a "prince" of the wizarding world in the sense that he is the
son
> of
> > one of the most prominent families.
> >
> > But secondly, there is the notion of prince not as the inheritor
> of a
> > prominent/royal family, but as one who is notable or prominent
by
> his
> > deeds. The merchant prince definition if you will.
> >
> > I find it intriguing that the novels have strong themes that
would
> > apply in each case. Tom Riddle makes much of the fact that he
is
> > descended from a great wizard, Harry obsessed over his lineage,
as
> > does Neville (in a very different way). But then, we are
> repeatedly
> > told that it is our choices, our deeds that make us what we are.
> >
> > I suspect that there may well be two characters in the book who
> could
> > be identified as the prince of the half bloods and that it won't
> be
> > clear which is the intended until the end. One character for
each
> > definition. It would be an excellent way to delve into the
> > difference and the importance of deeds over inherited title.
> >
> > I see one character of Lockhartian proportions. Perhaps a very
> > wealthy, prominent, respected halfblood family (Weasleys but
with
> > money) has a son who is well, Lockhart-like, all bluster and
fluff.
> >
> > The other character comes from a more hardworking family that
> isn't
> > well known, like the Weasleys but without the name recognition.
> He
> > doesn't bluster, he just goes out and gets it done.
> >
> > Pre speculation of course, but it would seem to fit the themes.
>
> Gregory_lynn:
> You are brilliant! Just wanted to say that. Now, I can go back
to
> racking my brain on the characters (that we probably already know)
> to see how will fit these definitions.
> Stephanie
Steph again: I need to add that when looking up the definition for
prince I noticed this:
A title belonging to persons of high rank, differing in different
countries. In England it belongs to dukes, marquises, and earls, but
is given to members of the royal family only. In Italy a prince is
inferior to a duke as a member of a particular order of nobility; in
Spain he is always one of the royal family.
and
The chief of any body of men; one at the head of a class or
profession; one who is pre["e]minent; as, a merchant prince; a
prince of players. ``The prince of learning.'' --Peacham.
Hope that helps.
Steph
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