[HPforGrownups] Speculations on HBP (Hagrid, Godric Gryffindor)

Ariana ariana at astele.co.uk
Wed Jun 30 02:16:33 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 103541

From: "Jonathan House" <jonathan at techtobiz.com>
> The other 50% I'm saving for someone that I haven't seen mentioned yet (I
> may have missed it). What about Godric Griffindor?

Ariana:
My first thought was Salazar Slytherin, but then it occurred to me that
Gryffindor makes even more sense. (A couple of other people have suggested
this too)

Since Gryffindor's sword appears briefly in CoS, the Sorting Hat is
identified as his, and there's a suggestion that Harry might be *his* heir
much as Riddle is Slytherin's, it would make sense that JKR had put a lot
more about Gryffindor into CoS, but had to cut it out because it wasn't
essential to the plot and she wasn't paid by the ounce in those days (just
joking :).

We already know via the Sorting Hat that there was a significant rift
between Gryffindor and Slytherin back in the old days, and that Riddle is
definitely Slytherin's descendent. It would therefore follow that his
arch-nemesis Harry might be Gryffindor's descendent, which gives the LV/HP
confrontation the added resonance of history repeating itself, with the two
of then enacting the original confrontation between Slytherin and
Gryffindor.

Another reason I believe the "prince" will be someone from history is the
same fact that people have already discussed here. JKR hasn't mentioned any
kind of current royalty, and princes are more the sort of thing you find in
fairy tales that take place a long time ago... they were probably more
common in 9th century Scotland than they are today.

Concerning the idea of Voldemort and Harry reenacting the confrontation
between Gryffindor and Slytherin, it would be interesting to know exactly
what did happen between those two. Maybe Harry will put that Sorting Hat on
and ask it some more helpful questions than "what house should *I* be in?";
after all, the Hat would know exactly what was going on in Gryffindor's head
(assuming it was on it at the time, anyway), and what happened might have
repercussions for what Harry needs to do to defeat Voldy.

Maybe Slytherin just stalked off in a huff without actually fighting
Gryffindor, preferring to leave the basilisk to exact possible revenge later
rather than risk an encounter with the pointy end of Godric's sword (as has
been pointed out before, Slytherins can be brave, but they're not stupid).
Cue a thousand years of unresolved conflict which leads to Harry and Voldy
zapping the crap out of each other to bring about something new -- a union
rather than a separation, maybe? (okay, that last bit might just be woolly
thinking at 3.00 am, and also evokes bad slash fics, so I won't develop that
further :)

But right now, my money's on Gryffindor. Which probably means it's Ron. :)

Ariana






More information about the HPforGrownups archive