Book titles

greatelderone greatelderone at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 30 21:45:31 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 103753

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "meriaugust" <meriaugust at y...> 
wrote:
> Sorcerer's/Philospher's Stone: This is what was being hidden at 
> Hogwarts, a massive plot point, obviously, and what HRH and DD 
were 
> so keen to keep away from LV and Quirell (well, Snape, actually, 
but 
> y'all know that). It gets destroyed at the end of the book. 
> 
> Chamber of Secrets: Where the Basilisk was hidden, and very nearly 
> where Harry and Ginny could have died. Also a massive plot point, 
> and as far as we know it still exists. 
> 
> Prisoner of Azkaban: The only novel named after a character (with 
> the exception of Harry), one who, like the Chamber and the Stone, 
> isn't even physically seen until the very last chapters. He is, 
> sadly, like the Stone, no longer with us. 

GEO: So far so good. I agree that she has a thing for naming her 
novels with the McGuffins/plot devices that advance the plot. 

> 
> Goblet of Fire: A relatively minor player in the novel, the 
Goblet's 
> one reason for involvement in the plot is to be hoodwinked by 
Crouch!
> Moody and get Harry into the tournament. I always thought that HP 
> and the Triwizard Tournament would have been a better title, just 
> because the TT is far more integral to the plot than the Goblet 
> itslef. The Goblet is seen relatively early in the action and not 
> seen again. 

GEO: Actually the original title of the book was HP and the 
Doomspell Tournament so you weren't really far off.

> Order of the Phoenix: The group dedicated to the eradication of LV 
> and only the second title to be mentioned in a previous book 
(called 
> the "old crowd" in GoF, Sirius' mention in SS being the other). 
The 
> Order plays, like the Goblet, a relatively small part in the 
novel, 
> being seen only at the begining and the end. The Order is, as far 
as 
> we know, still in exsistence, and will probably play a huge role 
in 
> the upcoming books. 

GEO: I agree though she should have called it something in relation 
to the DoS and the prophecy room.

> So what can we deduce from HP and the Half Blood Prince? Well, who 
> ever it is doesn't stand a good chance for survival: the Prisoner 
of 
> Azkaban has allready died, as have a few members of the Order. Any 
> other thoughts related to the title? Could the Chamber (or even 
the 
> Stone or the Goblet) be back for more action? Who knows? 

GEO: In the case of CoS, the point of who was the Heir of Slytherin, 
also was one of the main points that advanced the plot. The fact 
that she was originally going to call CoS, the halfblood prince 
might also be an indication that the HBP is also an alias of Tom 
Riddle or perhaps the equivalent of the heir of slytherin before the 
title change.





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