Train stomp defence (was Chapter 13)

[Jim Ferer]

No: HPFGUIDX 91919

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Laura Ingalls Huntley
<lhuntley at f...> wrote:
Laura wrote:
(Although JKR's defiant defense of the treatment Malfoy and Co. got on
the train at the end of GoF seems to suggest that author doesn't think
a little ruthlessness is a bad thing).
 
I'd call it rough justice instead of ruthlessness, but I completely
agree JKR has no problem with it.  I don't, either.  She has said in
interviews she can't understand Draco fans.

David:
What defiant defence is that?  Has she spoken in an interview about
that incident?

Considering how various types of bullying behaviour figure so stringly
in OOP, I think anything she says about that incident would be very
interesting to know."
 
Laura:I'm sorry, that was very sloppy writing (and also a quite a bit
of inference on my part).  I was referring to the fact that after all
the complaining about the train stomp scene in GoF, she basically
wrote the *same* kind of scene for the end of OotP (with the DA
reducing Malfoy and Co. to puddles of mush).  Right after OotP came
out, there was a great deal of speculation among listies as to what
this could mean, and  the general consensus seemed to be that it was
JKR's defense of HRH and FG's treatment of MCG at the end of GoF (i.e.
she was making no apologies and felt that none were needed).  Of
course, this theory  presupposes a lot of things, including that JKR
even has a *clue* what we argue about over here."

I believe JKR is well aware of what we say around here and other
places like here; she responded to a number of fan threads in OotP, I
believe, and rewriting the "stomp" scene into OotP (improving it
even), can well be taken as a defiant defense of the kind of rough
justice Draco & the Knuckles Twins got.

The OotP scene is a little different in that it was even more
clear-cut than the GoF scene; the DA members were defending Harry from
a direct physical or magical assault, as opposed to "merely" being
taunted beyond endurance with Cedric's death.

Wouldn't you like to know what JKR's ID on this list is?

Jim Ferer

Harry has never started it with Draco.  He'd leave Draco alone and
unmolested forever if Draco didn't start the trouble. That's not
bullying.  Starting trouble and then getting your fanny handed to you
isn't getting bullied either.