SHIP: Harry and Hermione

samnanya yswahl at stis.net
Fri Mar 5 18:40:11 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 92225



jferer
My idea of "clues" is what we see of the developing 
personalities and relationships, not in a tiny cue here and a tiny 
cue there. Seen in the thematic way, I see Harry and Hermione 
growing closer and closer all the time; Harry identifying with the 
way Hermione thinks and hearing her voice inside; Hermione 
knowing just what Harry needs and exerting herself for it with 
 intelligence and even ruthlessness if needed.
 
Pippin
You know, this sort of relationship sounds way too much like 
transference to be healthy. How could Harry ever be 
sure it wasn't his neediness that had drawn her to him? How 
could she?
Is there any indication that Hermione identifies with the way 
Harry thinks or hears his voice inside when she's got a difficult 
decision to make, or that he cares what *she* needs? I think 
Harry would be happier in a more equal relationship, myself. 
 
Susan
WOO HOO!!  I agree with you, Pippin.  Bring on Miss Ginny!! 
....<snips>
She's a tough cookie with a mind of her own, nice Quidditch 
skills, and a built-in "bond" with that possession experience.


Samnanya
(re Pippin)
I never thought I would disagree with Pippin because her theories, 
whether ultimately right or wrong, are always well thought out. But 
this time..... 
I am curious what you mean by "I think Harry would be happier in a 
more equal relationship, myself."?  More equal than what? There is a 
balance in Harry/Hermione that is evident in all of their exploits. 
Harry respects her opinion, which is more based on her Ravenclaw 
tendencies than her Griffindor ones.  She cares for Harry greatly - 
much more than as a friend, and the feeling is mutual. When she is 
injured at the MOM Harry is nearly paralyzed with brainlock. His 
powerful response when Neville says that he feels a pulse is both 
intensely physical and emotional. I have been collecting little 
"clues" all through the series, which I have to dig through to
several 
of my prior posts on this to update.
That said, there are two things that stand in the way of HH. First, 
Harry is not through growing emotionally, especially with LV lurking 
around within, and second, Harry has not had to take the full 
consequences of the results of his actions. Yes, Sirius is dead in 
part because of Harry, but not completely so. Mark my words - Harry 
will learn a serious lesson in Book 6 at the expense of either Ron or 
Luna, as a result of NOT listening to Hermione or Dumbledore.... and 
that brings me to ...  

(re Susan)
Ginny is the wild card here. I would LOVE for someone to theoretize 
about Ginny and the egg symbolism that is rampant in the series.
There 
is the sharing of the egg in the library with Harry - there is the
egg to bird to egg time turner in the MOM that Ginny is fascinated 
with...
There is a lot more about Ginny that is not known and probably wont
be known until book 7, and I am still not convinced that she is who we 
think she is.......
As far as bonds, Harry has as much in common with Luna as he does with 
Ginny, and if her father is killed early in Book 6 like i think will  
happen, and if Luna's mom somehow died trying to save her (as 
presented by Pippin in another of her theories), then Harry has much 
more in common .....  





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