'the one who left for ever' Was: JKR chat

[suehpfan]

No: HPFGUIDX 92373

snip of Susan's post and part of Mandy's
> So, for Malfoy, if he believes Snape is really a loyal DE, great. 
> Snape has convincingly fooled DD and is filtering info on to LV.  
> Or if Malfoy believes Snape is really a loyal member of the Order 
and 
> a traitor to LV, great.  As Snape is still, to the world 
> Malfoy's 'friend' and for want of a better term 'lap dog,' and to 
> maintain that position Snape has to work for Malfoy, do what Malfoy 
> desires.  Malfoy has a potential gold mine of information in Snape 
to 
> tap when he chooses, or so he thinks.  Malfoy could very well 
believe 
> that he has manipulated Snape into the position where at any 
moment, 
> at Malfoy discretion; Snape will have no choice but to tell all to 
LV 
> and the DE.  
> 
> The question here is, is Snape smart, strong and brave enough to 
> allow Malfoy to believe this? Even if it is not true?  I think 
Snape 
> is that clever and that brave. 
> 
> Mandy

If Snape was not under a mask at the graveyard (which I think is 
unlikely for all of the reasons listed by other posters) then IMVHO 
he must be the one who Voldemort "thinks" has left him forever.  
Karkarof strikes me the quintesential coward.  He has turned on his 
friends to save his own skin, he spends GoF either whining about the 
tournament or sniveling about his aching arm.  I can imagine his 
meeting with Voldemort was lovely, and I am sure now he is given all 
kinds of important jobs, like hanging out with Wormtail spying on the 
giants (aren't they from around Durmstrang?) 

Snape on the other hand is way too smart to be somebody's lacky, even 
Malfoy.  I can imagine his meeting with Voldemort, which I am 
convinced happened just as it seemed, right after he showed the Dark 
Mark to Fudge.  I can imagine Snape kissing the him of Voldemort's 
robes and begging his forgiveness for doubting he would ever return.  
Then being instructed to stay where he was and take up the lead job 
of spying on DD again (much like MacNair was given the job of "muggle 
torture").  His return could not have been fun, but he did return.

We know from many examples of canon that no one leaves Voldmort.  It 
is either a lifelong commitment or death.  If Voldemort believed 
Snape had truly left him forever, he would not have lived to see the 
beginning of book 5.  BTW, asking whether we would ever see Karkarof 
again might have been a good one!

Sue, who continues to straddle the fence about Snape being redeemed.