Why didn't Voldy grab the Prophecy was Re: hello...

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 92593

Welcome Kashelkar!

>> The biggest flaw in this book seems to be the basic plot.  I'm 
not  still convinced why Voldemort didn't just apparate near the 
97th row of shelves in the Dept of Mysteries, picked up the 
prophecy and Disapparate.  <<

I don't think it is possible to Apparate or Disapparate directly from 
the Department of Mysteries, at least we don't see anyone doing 
that.  There wouldn't have been much point in setting a guard on 
the door otherwise. Harry's dreams don't take him any further 
into the Department than the door until Rookwood is restored to 
his master. Presumably Rookwood was able to tell Voldemort 
exactly what he would find beyond the door, and that is why 
Voldemort was able to project such a convincing vision into 
Harry's mind.

The Ministry believed that Voldemort was the only one, besides 
Harry, who could take the prophecy. Even if there were actually 
other ways to get it, if it disappeared while Harry was known to 
be at Hogwarts, its disappearance would be proof that 
Voldemort had returned. Once Voldemort realized  this, he 
concentrated his efforts on trying to get Harry to retrieve the 
prophecy for him.

Kashelkar:
> Also, even towards the end when Voldemort lures Harry and 
the members  of DA into the dept of Mysteries, isn't it the 
simplest just to tip  off the Ministry officials (Lucius telling
Fudge) 
of the illegal  break-in, and the Ministry officials alongwith aurors 
would simply  arrest the DA members, expel them from 
hogwarts and punish them  severely, (what Fudge, umbridge are 
dying to do for long...)<


Lucius would have had to explain how he knew Harry was 
coming. I also think Voldemort expected Harry to show up 
alone...Voldemort isn't supposed to know about the DA or that 
Harry has told Snape about his vision...Of course he may know 
more than he is supposed to, but unless he wants to make it 
plain that he has a spy in the Order, he has to behave as if  he 
doesn't, always the Catch-22 of espionage. 

Also, your plan doesn't allow Harry to get the prophecy, which 
was the point of the exercise as far as Voldemort was 
concerned. 

Kashelkar:
>> Also, the 5th year has ended, but Harry has not learnt 
Occlumency...   So won't Voldemort be able to 'make him do 
things'  at his Aunt's  house?   We'll know abt that only in the 6th 
book..<<
 

Whether Voldemort can penetrate Harry's mind now that he is 
aware of the force inside it is an open question, but since Harry's 
scar did not hurt once after Voldemort released him, despite the 
rage Voldemort must have been feeling, I would guess that he 
can't, at least for the time being.

I agree that OOP is alot more demanding of the reader. It is so 
packed with incident that the outlines of the story are not always 
clear.
 
Pippin