[HPforGrownups] Re: Malfoy/Karkaroff

Scott Santangelo owlery2003 at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 12 02:09:33 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 92764



Mandy wrote:We know that Lucius stayed true to the dark arts during Voldy's absence, and we know he hung onto some artifacts which he had to quickly get rid of when the Ministry raids began, and that he had Riddle's diary to slip into Ginny's cauldron.  What do you all think about how *loyal* he was to Voldy during those "down" years?  And how loyal now?


tipgardner replied: I had a couple of thoughts inspired by your interesting post Mandy. One is that I tend to think Lucius gives me the impression of loyalty
to himself, but also an understanding of his place, willing orotherwise, in the pecking order of the group with whom he has chosen to associate.  Is he loyal to LV as well?  I think he is in his own, self-interested way. Another thought was your concept of Lucius rising to power and achieving success with the help of LV.  I believe that the text gives a distinct impression of the Malfoy family as being wealthy, powerful and old.  That makes me think that Lucius didn't need LV, he believed
in the cause, etc., at least when he was younger.  I do think that he and LV have many of the same goals.  I also think that Malfoy's position because of his family's standing, independent of anything LV may or may not have helped him achieve, is highly useful to LV.  I'm
not sure how his imprisonment would help with that, but as he does not appear to have named names or betrayed LV in some other way, he should be all right in LV's eyes for now.  He's offered the same sort of loyalty that Bellatrix did.

Owlery2003 commented:

Agreed! Malfoy is a self-centered type with his own resources and ambitions, but he's no fool. He's cast his lot with LV, and he's smart enough to know what would happen if he tried to switch sides. Even before he knew LV was back, he was muggle-baiting at the quidditch cup, so he's a die-hard DE. Live by the sword . . .



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