Intro and Re: [HPforGrownups] Snape&Karkaroff... and a third party?

[oceangirl23 at comcast.net]

No: HPFGUIDX 92866

Hello all, my name is amy and I recently joined the list.  It's great to see 
that there are people who think about the same things as I do.  One of the 
topics you are on now, has always interested me.  At the graveyard, who is LV 
referring to when he's going around the circle of DE's and mentions those that 
are not here.  

--- nkittyhawk97 <nkittyhawk97 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In the quote on page 651 of the US GoF containing,
> > "One, too 
> > cowardly to return" and "One who I believe has left
> > me forever" has 
> > never, in my eyes, had any room LEFT for
> > speculation.
I quite personally always thought that the one who left him forever was 
Karkaroff.  I always thought that Snape was one of the ones he mentioned 
missing, but cannot figure out which one, or if he was there.  

xmezumiiru at yahoo.com wrote:
> Voldemort refrained from mentioning Snape in order to
> keep his spy safe. He would not know that Snape is
> Dumbledore's spy, as only Karakoff knew Snape was the

> spy and he did not tell the Death Eaters or Voldemort,
> nor that he would reveal himself later. 

Snape, as we find out the OotP is exceptional at Legimancy, therefore it is very 
feasible for Voldemort to not know that he is a spy.  

xmezumiiru at yahoo.com wrote:
> why else would the portkey have a return
> setting if not for someone to return?


The question I do have is about the portkey.  We see in GoF that when people 
arrive at the Quidditch World Cup that the portkeys are tossed aside and then 
used again for the return trip at the end, but have to be re-charmed.  Who then 
was the person that made the portkey two way.  Was this done before, or during 
the Graveyard?  Was Snape may be actually at the Graveyard, but just not 
mentioned, and during the whole wand duel snuck over to the portkey.  This 
leaves things very open.  I'm very intrigued to hear what other people think.
Thoughtfully,
Amy