Snape and the MOM (Was: Snape the coward or the one left forever?

[suehpfan]

No: HPFGUIDX 92885

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "snapesmate" <snapesmate at h...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "suehpfan" <stanleys at s...> 
> wrote:
> ><snip>> > 
> > Snapesmate asked:
> > > Is there actually canon stating Snape is still a DE?  
> > snip
> > 
> > Sue here:
> > I'm looking for clarification.  From the way I read the books, 
> there 
> > is no way for Snape to *not* be a DE.  If we believe Sirius and 
> > Voldemort himself, a DE has two options: the Dark Lord forever or 
> > death.  The only way Snape could free himself is to have 
Voldemort  
> > and all of his loyal supporters dead.  As DD said they are all 
just 
> > as dangerous as he is.
> > 
> > As far as Voldemort's knowledge of Snape's participation in the 
> Order 
> > there are really only two options here as well.  Voldemort does 
not 
> > know (because as Carol said, there isn't anyone who would know 
> except 
> > DD) and Snape is loyal to the Order or Voldemort knows Snape is 
in 
> > the Order and he is betraying them.
> > 
> > That's my thoughts anyway.
> > Sue
> 
> Snapesmate:
> Professor Dumbledore stated at Karkarov's trial, that he 
had "already 
> testified" Severus Snape had rejoined their (the anti-Voldemort 
side)
> side before Voldemort's downfall.  Every person in that courtroom 
> heard him as well as any in attendance when he first testified.  
How 
> do we know there were no DEs in their midst?  
snip...
> Lynnette, who thinks Snape IS a good guy, even if he is NOT a nice 
> guy!

No doubt this is true.  *Everyone* knew Lucius Malfoy was under the 
Imperius Curse too ;).  The question was in regard to Snape being a 
member of the Order not about his denouncing Voldemort.  Voldemort is 
very aware that everyone in the circle around him at the graveyard 
had denounced him or they would be in Azkaban, which is, of course, 
the reason the people in Azkaban would be so well rewarded when they 
were freed.  The problem for Snape is that he also (according to DD) 
turned spy and everyone in the room knew that as well.  Which is why 
so many of us think he is the one Voldemort "believed" had left him 
forever.

That is the perspective from which I wrote my post anyway.
Sue