LV as Blofeld/Dr Evil?

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 15 00:44:22 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 92999

Taryn:
> <snip> Lord Voldemort, one of the most powerful wizards of the time,
has been beaten by a baby and a pre-teen. Sounds rather pathetic, huh?
So now he's going to prove, in front of a company of Death Eaters,
that those were flukes. He's going to set up a fair match and PROVE
that he's, by far, the better wizard. And note that by FAIR, I mean
both opponents are equipped in the same manner. Sure, Voldy would've
wiped the floor with Harry if it hadn't been for the brother wands.
But that's called a fair fight--it determines who's the better of the
two opponents.<

Carol:
Good point about the brother wands and the (nearly) fair fight. I
think that ties in with LV's marking Harry as his (future) equal: the
brother wand recognized the mark [scar] and chose Harry because of it.
And, paradoxically, Harry's possessing the brother wand reinforces
(and helps to create) the potential equality the wand itself
recognized. (Does that make sense to anyone but me?)

But regarding the second and third defeats you mention, I don't think
that the DEs, with the exception of Lucius Malfoy, knew anything about
them (except what little Nott's, Crabbe's and Goyle's sons might have
told them) until LV updated them in the graveyard scene in GoF. Even
then, LV tells them about his possession of Quirrell (654, Am. ed.),
but he says nothing whatever of the diary incident, instead skipping
from Quirrell's death to Wormtail's return (654-55). I don't think he
 knows about it himself since this is his first conversation with
Malfoy in thirteen years.

As for the DEs and what their children may have told them, I've
already stated in another post that I don't think the students,
including the DE's children, knew much about either incident,
certainly not enough to provide their fathers with much useful
information. Despite DD's remark that the whole school knows what
happened between Harry and Quirrell, the students don't seem to know
that LV was inside Quirrell's head. If they did, their later
skepticism about LV having returned is inexplicable, as is Hannah
Abbott's surprised reaction to Neville's remark about Harry thwarting
LV's attempt to steal the philosopher's/ sorceror's stone (OoP Am. ed.
342). As far as I can tell from the available evidence, all the
students knew was that Quirrell had been trying to steal the stone and
that Harry (with the help of his friends Ron and Hermione) had
thwarted him. And that's all they would be able to tell their DE
fathers about the incident.

As for the second incident, all they would know is that Harry (with
Ron's help) saved Ginny from the Heir of Slytherin and that Hagrid did
not open the Chamber of Secrets fifty years before. As I said in my
previous post (q.v.), no one except Harry's close friends seems to
know anything about the basilisk or Tom Riddle. I also don't think
that Lucius, given the humiliating results of his attempt to
resuscitate Voldemort in the shape of young Tom, is likely to tell his
fellow DEs about it. In fact, LV himself might not be too happy with
Lucius's little maneuver. Suppose it had succeeded, and the
resurrected Voldemort came face to face with his younger self in a
power struggle? Maybe Malfoy had better remain silent on that one.

Carol, who is only trying to figure out how much the DEs knew/know
about Harry's encounters with LV in Books One and two and hopes she
isn't being too repetitive





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