The Grim?

suehpfan stanleys at sbcglobal.net
Tue Mar 16 01:18:07 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 93065

Snip of Kathy's post and part of Carol's:
Carol Wrote:
I do wonder if there's more to
> Trelawney (and her tea leaves and crystal balls) than she's been 
given
> credit for. I'd almost think that she was the person who's going to 
do
> (or has already done) magic late in life since she seems almost
> Squiblike, except that she's already given two real prophecies,
> neither of them in desperate circumstances. Maybe McGonagall and
> Hermione (McGonagall, Jr.) were a bit too hasty in their judgment 
of her?
>  
snip

Trelawny is an interesting character.  Several thousand posts ago a 
few people speculated (maybe you, Carol?) that She is indeed a Squib 
with a talent for occasional prophecy .  I don't think she saw a dog 
anywhere.  As a matter of fact, Harry's "vision" in the crystal ball 
from the end of PoA was more accurate than any of hers (Sorry, I 
don't have PoA handy but I know it is in the chapter where ST gives a 
real prophecy). 

I think it is more likely that she is channeling someone.  Perhaps DD 
even knows who it is. As far as Trelawny being the person who shows 
magical ability later in life, if she is indeed a Squib, this would 
not surprise me at all.  I see her as holding an even more important 
role as the story goes on.  There is no reason why Voldemort would 
not know who both spoke and heard the prophecy.  Many of his DEs saw 
the orb and the writing on it.  We do not know how long they waited 
in the DoM for Harry to arrive, but they probably had plenty of time 
to figure out who the initials stood for, certainly DD would not have 
been too hard, how many people have 5 initials?

If the DE's did figure out both parties involved, they probably have 
two new ways of accessing it: DD (very unlikely) and Trelawny, who 
most likely has some way of recalling or being forced to channel the 
entity who gave here the information in the first place.  

We have very little information about Seers in the WW.  We have even 
less real information about Trelawny except that DD saw her as 
important enough to hide away at Hogwarts to protect her (my belief 
anyway).  I doubt DD would be wrong about Trelawny's talent and he 
has as little respect for her day to day "prophecy" as MacGonagall.

If all of this speculation is correct, Trelawny could very well be on 
Voldemort's "most wanted" list as the next book commences, both to 
find out the contents of the original prophecy and to have a person 
who can provide real prophecy on his side.  Or maybe just to get rid 
of her so he can keep DD's side from having her occasional talents.

I put this together really fast, I hope it makes some sense!

Sue





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