How can LV win the war in three weeks

nkafkafi nkafkafi at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 17 00:13:13 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 93157

> Viridis:
> I like your clean logic employed in the plan. However I see wrong 
assumption, which constitute a major flaw.  
> Moody said it needs a powerful wizard to execute the Unforgivables;

Neri:
I attempted to take care of the power problem in #92920, but I won't 
argue the point further because I don't think we have enough details 
in canon to decide if the Imperius virus will or will not work (this 
is often a purely empirical question even in real-world programs).
 
> Viridis:
 we saw Harry shaking off Imperio and than winning the duel with 
Voldie by the power of the will. He's certainly strong willed person, 
for which examples can be found throghout the books. 
> In OotP, especially in MoM battle, we have finally seen the 
conection between psyche and the magic - which is very typical for 
general understanding of magic as skill(ability)+will (in folklore, 
legends and fantasy along). So the  person has possibilties for 
executing these kinds of magic (s)he as also psychic tendency for: 
sadists are great with Cruciatus. 

Neri:
The theme of magic as manifestation of psych is a very common cliché 
in fantasy books. I like JKR writing specifically because her brand 
of magic is a bit more mechanistic than that. It is not enough to be 
strong willed in order to be a powerful wizard, you also need to be 
intelligent, and magic is often applied in clever and unexpected 
ways, like DD using the Mirror of Erised as a security device, or the 
Goblet made a portkey.

> Viridis:
<Snip>
> Well, yes, as much as I like JKR's work, she is not a world-
creator. She basically substituted "technology and science" 
with "magic". So the similarites are not surprising. She did it with 
great grace, to be sure.

Neri:
I agree only in part. Very few made-up universes are really original. 
Most differ from our real world (or from a well-known mythological 
world) only by a single parameter or two. Detail and consistency are 
more important than originality in this game. I don't know many 
fantasy or even science-fiction worlds in which it is possible to 
construct something like the Imperius virus: a unique and detailed 
device that follows directly from the author's rules, yet was clearly 
not envisioned by the author herself.

Neri





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