[HPforGrownups] Re: Why didn't Lily have to die?

[Kimberly]

No: HPFGUIDX 93566

 
>Carol:
>I think Lily *did* know that she had to die for the "ancient magic" to
>work. (We've discussed the possibility in earlier threads that she
>herself placed a protective charm on Harry that could only work if she
>died to save him.)

(Kimberly's comments)
Well we know that Dumbledore put the charm on Harry, he says so (OoTP, US ed. page 836).  "...and in dooing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you.   Your Mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you."    

Are you implying that Lily had prior to that placed another charm ?   

(Carol)
>If I'm right, she could not step aside (even if she
>wanted to, which few mothers would) and she couldn't allow herself to
>be pushed aside, either: she had to be killed to activate the
>protection. That's why (IMO) she kept screaming, "Don't kill Harry!
>Kill me instead!" Whether or not she placed a charm on him herself,
>these words indicate that she knew she had to die. (If you're
>interested in the protective charm theory, it was discussed at length
>earlier this year and ties in with Lily's skill at charms, as
>suggested by the description of her first wand in SS/PS.)

(Kimberly)
I'm not so convinced, I would behave the same way if someone were to attack my household, kill my husband and then come after myself and my children.     What would make her think that he was coming to kill Harry ?   (and maybe I've missed a crucial point, could be)  She didn't know about the prophesy, or did she ?    I thought that only a few knew of it and I don't remember her being one of them.    

(Carol's comment)
>She *had* to
>die *before* LV tried to kill Harry because the AK would have
>succeeded if she were still alive to see it.

(Kimberly)
Absolutely, because if not, then there'd have been no sacrifice and DD's charm wouldn't have been sealed. 

Kimberly, who would indeed like to read about an earlier discussed topic of this


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